Smitten Kitten's Surgery at MVP + Other Reviews and Experiences

[insecur1ties]

MissOrange said: ↑

Hi @neesaneesa, Happy Christmas!

I feel your pain as I too felt pain when Dr Choi and I had agreed on a bullhorn liplift and then on the morning of the surgery, starved and gowned, I was told he was now going to do a vermillion liplift! I was not ready to be cut in the lip itself. I did feel like I had wasted 2.5 million won when 6 months later the upper lip shrank and my lip and philtrum were exactly the same as before surgery. But I was able to get over this pain by immediately seeking a UK ps to do what I had wanted, a bullhorn liplift and told myself at least Dr Choi removed the lumps in my upper lip left by old fillers so I could think something positive.

A revision rhino to remove the rib graft which is what you wanted and to give you a straight nose and not ski sloped means finding a very experienced revision rhino specialist. Have you looked at gng, baum, regen, etc. For primary rhino with silicone for a natural nose, I would recommend Dr Seo at MVP. For revision rhino, it needs someone who only does rhino as with each revision, the risk of necrosis, scar tissue, deformity may go up.

Neesaneesa think of this as a temporary stage until you find a better rhino ps. PS is a journey where we have good results and bad results. You have shared your story and that is good as you are warning others and getting this off your chest. I too warned others of Dr Choi's vermillion lip lift not shortening the philtrum and found Dr Mills who did shorten my philtrum with bullhorn technique. I think as Dr Choi is the senior ps at MVP and owns it, he may believe that he knows best when it comes to his idea of aesthetics and when meaning is lost in translation, misunderstandings may happen. I would not have agreed to vermillion at the consultation as I flew to korea to get bullhorn lip lift as per their website photos.

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Are you even serious? Ellen and Dr Choi lied to her and you still ask her to go back MVP and find Dr Seo for revision. Lol, you're really delusional.

 

[cinnamon_and_clove]

Hey @neesaneesa, may I ask what exactly you had asked Dr. Choi to perform? I agree that price seems extremely high especially for MVP considering the scope if what you asked him to do was to simply remove the rib graft and close it out. If that was agreed upon scope in writing, then I would think you have a legal case if you can prove with CT scan or X-ray showing the rib graft still left. What puzzles me is that the only way their quote to be toward $10,000 (per your post) would have to involve like 4 - 5 operations such as combining alar reduction, bridge augmentation, tip plasty and septoplasty since their price for nose related operations cost around $2,000 - 2,500 per procedure based on quote I got so it makes me wonder what exactly was the agreed upon scope of operations. If I were you, I would have gone back to the original clinic to get it removed (probably I would ask for hyaluronic acid + PRP to accelerate the healing and buffer the height reduction so that it would be gradual) wherever it was which had operated on your perfect nose that did not need any heightening, I mean you look like Chilli from TLC! You did NOT need any bridge augmentation. Clearly. I can't believe some doctor would agree to place a rib graft (out of all options...) on a person who does not need it at all. It's also hard for me to believe Dr. Choi would leave the rib graft in though, if removal was agreed upon since my personal experience with him was that he would not do what I did not ask for and he advises against unnecessary procedures. He was also very clear on what can and can't be achieved so there was no false expectations on outcome. I wonder if there was some kind of misunderstanding? If someone as experienced as @MissOrange could encounter issues with misunderstandings, I guess it could happen to anyone especially in foreign countries so it's always a good idea to communicate every specific detail in writing before agreeing on operations. In terms of revision cases involving complex reconstructions while making the nose look exceptionally beautiful, I've always been impressed with many case photos on Baum blog (http://baumclinic.blogspot.com/) like this case (http://baumclinic.blogspot.com/2017/04/it-was-ayanas-rhinoplasty-reoperation.html). I think Dr. Park used to be the head nose surgeon at Braun (their B&A photos are pretty dramatic, too: http://www.braunps.net/07_community/community_03.html?div=%EC%BD%94%EC%84%B1%ED%98%95), I got interested in them after seeing the blog posts of someone who used to live in Korea who had multiple revisions and she had the final revision at Baum which turned out amazing. But then again those are mostly cases of Asian noses and aesthetic ideals are different in Asian countries so that's another layer of complexity. I hope 2018 would be a better year for everyone and best of luck to you all.

 

[nasaa]

MissOrange said: ↑

Great to see you posting @smitten_kitten and I love your youtube videos. I have been converting my 20 year old VHS tapes to DVD. Here is a still frame from 1997 when I was 31! Now my friends say I look younger now in. 2017 than I did in 1997! Totally freaky. And I can thank Dr Seo at MVP for my amazingly young eyes and Dr Kim at DAPRS for full face fat grafting x 2 to replace my lost baby fat in my face (one loses fat in the face with ageing which then results in hollowing at the temples, marionette lines, bony brow, etc. I think as we all have different personalities and tastes, we bond with different plastic surgeons differently. Some love Dr Seo on first encounter and some do not. Judge a surgeon on their work and not their personality is my advice. Guess which photos are of me at 31 and of me at 50?

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now if you do lip corner lift procedure it will be perfect just my opinion ... its already brilliant looking anyway , congratulations on your result!

 

[catelet]

neesaneesa said: ↑

You are really lucky that you had a good experience. I have since made a website because I was so upset that this dr lied to me and did not do the surgery he told me he would be doing.

Maybe since it was a simple tip surgery the dr was able to do that well. For me, having to have a corrective surgery the dr did not know how to do it properly.


So he said he would remove my rib grafts that were placed in my nose and then during surgery decided to do something else instead. I’m still pretty upset because I trusted dr. Choi to do what he said he would do during surgery.

Here is a webpage I made with more photos and info.

MVPPLASTICSURGERY.COM


I have since sent my photos to other dr’s in Seoul (only true hospitals instead of small clinics this time) and they said my rib grafts should be removed if that is what I want. So Dr. Choi literally lied to me as a patient and made me pay for a surgery that he never did.

We agreed upon one thing and then when I am vulnerable and on the operating table under anesthesia he did something totally different that I didn’t ask for - osteotomy and rearranging grafts.

In fact, the surgery he performed was very simple and should have cost only 2million won compared to the 6 million won surgery he had said he would do. So for any one interested in mvp I would say there’s a 50 percent chance you could have a great great experience like @Cinnamon_and_clove but there’s also a 50% chance the dr lies to you like he did to me and does a surgery you never asked for. With those odds I really still wish I had gone to one of the hundred other drs in Seoul. One with more integrity.

Also, both of my parents are drs and they do charity work as well. Many dr’s do like to do charity work and it is more common then most people know. But most doctors including my parents never advertise their good deeds or flaunt that they do charity procedures on their websites. Just saying...

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Hi, how are you doing now @neesaneesa? I had a rib graft removed--if interested you can check out my thread "my rhinoplasty revision experience in Seoul" Dr. Paik at PS101 did a nice job of removing the graft-- I still have swelling there but it's coming along well. Sending you a pm as I don't want to hijack this thread.

 

[derrsteph]

Insecur1ties said: ↑

MVP is NOT a good clinic. The consultant is a LIAR. They will tell you they offer free revision and if the results isn't good, and you ask for free revision, they just simply ignore you.

FYI, I've talked to afew 3-4 girls who did DES with dr seo and they didn't like the result. They messaged Ellen the liar and she just read and ignore. Their crease is hooded, non visible and uneven. Some of them are considering revision.
Dr seo is just an average surgeon, pretty sure there's even better surgeon out there.

Please be aware of promoters here, by now you should know who that promoter is. The one that worships dr seo like as if he's a god.

PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH WELL!

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Hello, I was seriously contemplating doing my eye surgery at MVP before reading your post. How are the girls you talked to now? Every single clinic I've researched on has had bad reviews, I really don't know where to go now Is anyone has in the predicament as I am now?

 

[merose]

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[jessy-do]

celavive said: ↑

Hi Miss Orange, sorry to hear that the lip lift did not last.. can I know till date (4 months later) - are u still satisfied with ur rhino and eye surgery at MVP?

Im going to book my surgery with MVP for des and rhino next week after I ask a few more questions. Was hesitant if I should do thigh lipo as well. Worried too much procedure at once though it will be done by the same doc Dr.Seo. Anyone had any experiences with thigh lipo at MVP? I did some research - some encourage frequent massage while mvp just encourage to wear garment for minimum 1-2 months and advisable to wear for 6 months for best result. Any soul out there care to share their thigh lipo experience? Thanks..

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Hi Flippest, how was your nose and eyes now? Are you still happy with results done by dr Seo at Mvp? Thanks

 

[jessy-do]

celavive said: ↑

Hey guys, am going for my surgery at MVP this Friday.. will be doing DES and nose.. both primary. Will update my experience soon... anyone happen to be in korea within this period?

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Hi Celavive, how is your nose and eyes? Are you still hapy with the result? May I know who did your nose at Mvp please? Thank you

 

[plasticaddict]

Was at MVP walker, Ellen quoted me 3million for outer corner eye lengthening revision. Is it consider expensive ??

 

[plasticaddict]

*typo. At mvp earlier

 

[missy_sana]

Plasticaddict said: ↑

Was at MVP walker, Ellen quoted me 3million for outer corner eye lengthening revision. Is it consider expensive ??

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It sounds like it may be. Possibly because you are only doing just the one surgery and it is a revision as well. Surgeons like Dr Seo may command a higher price. Ask around other clinics to get an idea of typical prices for that procedure.

 

[skimmy34]

smitten_kitten said: ↑

Since there was a lot of experience gained and so much to share from my trip to Korea, I wrote a blog that includes all my before and after photos incl. tips on why I think my swelling was not so bad (even though my first DES caused great swelling that lasted 3 months). I also made note of my AirBnB stay, places I visited and shopped at, things to bring, reviews on all my consults, etc etc. I hope my blog will be helpful to you all. Sorry I cant post the link here but you are welcome to PM me for it.

I also have to split my post into two because it has gone over the 10k word limit haha... so check my blog if you want to learn more ^_^v

For those who don't see my blog, here are some quick tips I would like to share with you:
1) don't use doc finder - my friend did and ended up at Bano and paid close to 8mil krw for just primary DES. She got ripped off and as for her results? Well she has to go back for revision. My online consult with BK also gave me a quote of 8MIL krw and tried to sell me many procedures I did not need.
2) Know what YOU want to get done. SOOOOOOOOOOOO many people on these forums are here to do many different things so it is very easy to pick up insecurities from other girls about your own face/body. Don't give in! You are beautiful! Learn to love and only get surgery on what you've struggled to love!
3) Research, Research, RESEARCH!! Know for yourself if you want incisional or non or partial before going. What type of crease do you want? What procedures do you need exactly? Don't be sold by the typical "des, epi, ptosis" happy meal set that certain doctors *cough teuim cough* seem to sell to every Mary, Jane and Alice that walks through lol
4) NEVER FEEL FORCED by a clinic. MVP said to me "go to your consults and come back whenever you want to"... this is rare in contrast to CheongdamU pestering me on the fact that if I did not book immediately I would lose my surgery spot. Many clinics will pressure you into getting a deposit. Don't give in! Do your research, ask all your questions, then decide for yourself before paying your deposit/surgery. I saw Dr. Seo for two separate consults before I came back on the third day to choose him!
5) Koreans are friendly! You just have to be friendly to them first! Try learning some simple Korean phrases it will help you on your trip! Knowing a little bit of mandarin certainly goes a long way in Korea too! If you only speak English then definitely learn some Korean phrases! If you get lost or get stuck, don't be shy asking the locals for help! Though they don't generally talk to strangers, you will be surprised how willing they are to help us foreigners!


I hope my post has been helpful!! Do let me know if it has helped you!

Wishing you all the best!

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smitten_kitten said: ↑

Hi verse, you're welcome! I have pm-ed you with my blog link! I paid a lump sum for my eyes and nose so I wouldn't know how much it would be for just des let alone the fact I did revisional des. This is their website here at : http://www.imvp.co.kr/ or http://www.imvp.co.kr/pop_eng.php though the best way to contact them is via kakao and you can PM me for their ID if you want.



Hi tari,
My nose bridge height is 3.5mm - I suggest you have a look again as there is a big enough difference lol.. make sure you are looking at "before surgery photos" and either day 14 or day 21 photos. You can see that prior to the implant, there was no nose between my eyes and a greater arrow curve pointing towards my face between forehead and tip. Anyway it all boils down to your own personal preference but I do CAUTION you with going with a higher bridge height in fear your bridge might end up too high. I let Dr. Seo choose my bridge height which was consistent with what two other respectable surgeons had suggested. On surgery day Dr. Seo confirmed that I would have a 3mm to 4mm implant and would decide during surgery what to give me and also shave the silicone accordingly to what I needed. ^_^ I am very happy with my nose results!

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[skimmy34]

Does anyone know if MVP surgeons are skilled in correction of deviated septums (septoplasty) during revision rhinoplasty?

 

[skimmy34]

smitten_kitten said: ↑

Hi everyone,

THANKS: First of all, THANK YOU for all your posts and support that you have shared on Purse Forum. One of the best advice that I was given was to join/create a Kakao group prior to going to Korea - This gave me so much support and was a good place to go for a quick answer. Also a quick THANKS to PF for existing on the internet for us girls and guys to find each other!

MERS: I traveled to Korea 2015 June 8th till 25th. There was a lot of fear about MERS however I found life in Korea as normal and safe so as long as I practiced safe and clean hygiene and always wore a mask as often as I could while being out.

WEATHER: Travelling during this time meant being in Korean summer heat. Just be prepared to sweat while you do a lot of walking! I believe monsoon season is coming so if you are travelling between now till end of August, bring an umbrella or buy one there!


REVIEW OF MVP
I have to say I am pleasantly satisfied from the first minute I entered into the clinic till the last time I said goodbye. My overall experience makes me feel extremely blessed or lucky since MVP was not on my short-list to begin with. I only went into MVP since the taxi driver had driven past it on the way to my AirBnb on my first day. Who knew I would end up having surgery here and also have good results! If I were back in square one, I would not do anything to change how everything played out - I would go with MVP again and I definitely recommend others to at the very least visit MVP for a consultation. In total, I have visited 7 different clinics prior to making my decision and I am glad I did because that allowed me to feel that I made the best choice possible. I have written a list of reviews for all my consults on my blog but to avoid breaking PF rules, feel free to PM me for the blog link details. You might be able to google: deskorea blogspot but remember to add .au after .com -- don't know if this works lol..

PRICE: I feel that MVP charges reasonable prices unlike other places that cater only to foreigners and charge an inflated foreigner's price. For example, I chose not to visit Cinderella because when I got my Korean neighbour to ring them, they insisted that they would not talk to a Korean local and insisted on getting me to ring back so they could speak directly to me! I found that the popular foreign clinics such as JW, BK, CheongdamU, VIP, etc etc charged very very exuberant prices but this is probably because they were all catered to us; the foreign market!!

APPOINTMENTS: MVP were all very friendly, accommodating, always ready to help even if you do not have an appointment. Only Ellen the head consultant speaks English however you will find that its nicer to have just you, the surgeon, and the consultant in the room less stressful rather than having a fourth person who is the translator. At CheongdamU, I surprisingly had a total of 6 people in the room including two surgeons and a trainee consultant alongside the actual consultant and the translator! I suggest that you create a short list and do make appointments with them however discussing prices and procedures can be done face to face. Price is never confirmed or settled until after your meeting with the surgeon. In the Apugjeong area of Seoul, there plenty of clinics at your fingertips, between your consults you are able to walk into many clinics for a walk in consultation. Aside from MVP, places like JK were also happy to accommodate a walk in consult!


CONSULT: MVP seems legit in making sure you are happy with your results. Dr. Seo had suggested that I focus on fixing my asymmetry in my double eyelids and doing my epi rather than including lateral cantho and fixing my entropian at the same time. This suggestion was in line with what Dr. Choi at JW and Dr. Yang at CheongdamU had suggested also. Prior to surgery, I had met Dr. Seo twice for consults prior to deciding on him as my surgeon. He was extremely patient with my questions and was very understanding of what I wanted. I asked for a maximum cut of my epi length, Dr. Seo explained that too much would bring my eyes too close together. He then showed me what it would look like and I was shocked at how ugly it would have been! I am glad he is not a surgeon who just says YES YES YES and would give me results I didn't know I wouldn't like. Instead Dr. Seo told me what he thinks would be nice and we could negotiate from there. When he showed me what he thought would be good, I said "a little more" and he nodded and pulled a little more skin. Since my rhinoplasty surgery was decided on last minute, I showed him a bunch of photos that I liked and left the rest of the deciding to him! HOW LUCKY WAS I TO END UP WITH A NICE NOSE On surgery day, I got to see Dr. Seo for the third time - I told him I trust him and that he can decide what he thinks is best while I am being operated so as long as he erred on the LARGE side for my eyes and erred on the SMALL side for my nose. We saw eye to eye on my eyes! ha..

SURGERY: Surgery itself was relaxing and I did not go in worried. The cleanliness of the whole clinic and tidiness of the surgery room was reassuring. I knew they were thorough since they did an EKG and blood test the day before and then another EKG test on the day of surgery because the first first results were not clear. My friend who did her DES before me at Banobagi said that prior to surgery she was not given a blood test or EKG test. HM! 0.o Other people in my kakao group has mentioned that their operating room was not tidy nor did it look stocked. MVP's surgery room was relaxing and I remember moving my finger like a maestro to the music while being operated on.

PAIN: A lot of people ask me whether or not I felt pain during my surgery. I always say that I personally think the anesthesiologist must have been a ninja because I could not tell when I was being sedated. Many say that they could feel a needle to the eye or my friends who had surgery at Bano said they could feel the incision made to their skin and the "burn" of the open wound. I remember shrugging once at MVP and I heard Dr. Seo immediately say "mm.. More LA". The only thing painful from my surgery was the heart rate clip they attached to my toe! I rate my pain at MVP 2/10 though my friends at Bano rate their pain as 8.99/10 lol...(and one of them has to go back for revision.. amagawd!!). Just to clarify, I was under LA for my eyes and GA for my nose. When I woke up I was dehydrated and drowsy however I did not throw up from GA unlike my experience at Bumrungrad Hospital in Thailand.

POST OP CARE: Their post op care has been very good and you are not out the door and alone after surgery. This is extremely important to me!! After surgery there is a tendency to worry not only about the outcome but about the recovery process. It is a lot less stressed when you know you are welcomed back to the clinic any time. Dr. Seo also saw me several times after surgery and not just for a few seconds like other doctors with my friends at other clinics. I got to see Dr. Seo all up 4 times after surgery. One of those time I bumped into him at which he very happily taught me how to do my post surgery "forehead exercises" for ptosis correction. On my last consult with him post surgery, he said he was happy for my results and gave me clear expectations on what to expect on my swelling. He wished me the best and told Ellen to tell me that if I experience any pain, bleeding, discomfort, worry that I should contact MVP immediately via Ellen's kakao. He also said that he is looking forward to seeing my final results and to see me again for my next scheduled surgery late October.
Medication was included into my price which was great and I did not need to worry about getting to a pharmacy post op. I also thought it was great that my clinic was so close to where I stayed - at one point of time I went into MVP 3 times because I kept forgetting a question that needed asking, or something done! I don't believe they were tired of seeing my face and even if they were, they didn't show it lol.

RESULTS: As for my results, I am happy with the outcome. I think I look very different and in a good way! My mum says I look like a Korean movie star (lol she's just being nice and a good mum) and my friends say MVP has improved my face in every way possible!! HAHAHA... GEE thanks guys!! But seriously, I have a lot to thank Ellen and Dr. Seo at MVP for; they have given me symmetry back in my eyes, an awesome side profile with my new nose, reduced nostril size that does not allow any fingers to go mining for emeralds, and also hooking me up with an eyebrow artist who pulled through at the end - I am happy with the shape and the color and she has also asked me to return for a touch up in 4 months. (See my review for lee-en who told me my eyebrows were a lost cause and that I should fix my hair line instead!! WHAT?! LOL!). So all in all, I owe my sincere thanks to MVP ^_^v


EXTRA NOTE: I have been to MVP with two other friends for consults and in both situations, Ellen the consultant suggested against procedures they did not need rather than just saying yes and taking their money. I agree wholeheartedly with Ellen in regards to my friends not needing the certain surgery they requested and was glad to see that MVP is not money hungry. Ellen was also super nice to entertain us 3 girls for a total of 2 hours after my 1 on 1 consult I had with her earlier that day =.=

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[estheryuki]

smitten_kitten said: ↑

procedures done at MVP
-revision double eyelid surgery (r.DES)
-epicanthoplasty
-rhinoplasty bridge
-tip plasty
-alar reduction
-vitamin drips
-massotherapy cell rejuvenation
-eyebrow embroidery
-scar removal (on body)
^_^V thanks for asking! I was trying to remind myself to make a list but obviously forgot!!

Late October 2015 I will be doing:
[possible] Lateral cantho
[possible] eyebag dark circle removal
[definite] entropian fix where my eyelash curls up into my eye
*dances beside K Couture* lol yipeee.. no more fugly face with the wonky eye! hahahaha

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wow can I ask how much the DES as well as eyebrow embroidery cost at MVP? After reading your review, I think I can trust MVP a bit more. Would you recommend Dr. Seo? tHanks so much for this!! I'm going to your blog right now after posting this reply