madambutterfly89 Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 I've been doing some research and found another girl on realself who also experience facial sagging after zygoma reduction. You can see her before and after photos on her post. Just click on her profile and look at her questions posted.https://www.realself.com//question/new-york-new-york-43-yrs-young-facelift?deeplink=deeplink/q_and_a/7015310&utm_source=iOSApp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=app-sharing
sheonlylooks25 Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 She may need a mini SMAS which Dream is offering for younger patients, but at 43 years old she should have a facelift as she needs it. Or at least a mid-face lift.
madambutterfly89 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 I saw her before photo...she def didn't need it. However, like her, I was too blind to see the truth of this surgery until I went through it. All this time, I've already had something good but was to brainwashed to see it.
itmeowshere Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 I think these are her before pictures:https://www.realself.com/question/new-york-new-york-after-my-rhinoplasty-like-remove-my-silicone-implant And yes I do see what you mean by the sagging. She actually still looks good in the after in my opinion except for the swelling of her lips, but that might be from something else.
madambutterfly89 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 This is her before. https://www.realself.com//question/botox-after-juvederms-lines-mouth?deeplink=deeplink/q_and_a/167852&utm%5Fsource=iOSApp&utm%5Fmedium=share&utm%5Fcampaign=app-sharing I'm sorry but she definitely doesn't look "better" in the after. It looks like she aged 10 years
madambutterfly89 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 I swear to god some people are not meant or born to be surgeons... If you're going to make money then do it ethically and turn people away from making a mistake. So many lives and future are destroyed.
itmeowshere Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 No, I definitely agree with you that there is noticeable sagging and she didn’t need it. There is actually an even worse case of sagging I saw broadcasted on one clinics Instagram pages of all places (I don’t want to say the name in public though)... it seems that anyone thinking of this surgery should plan for a facelift in the following year, which sucks because every clinic I visited seemed to downplay that issue. With all the research papers out there and years of practicing this surgery, You would think there are some surgeons out there that are able to avoid sagging, but finding out who is a huge gamble. Shame because I really thought this surgery would solve all my problems. (PS that pic was from 8 years ago so you’re not that far off lol!)
madambutterfly89 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 You have to be careful. Sagging from aging is different from loose skin from facial bone contouring. Usually younger skin is firmer and surgeons tend to be hesitate to operate on a younger patient. More risk
madambutterfly89 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 In apologize if this has been repeated--I was wondering if anyone here reading this can recommend a place for skilled threadlifting and fat grafting?
sheonlylooks25 Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 OMG the price of beauty or the price of youth!!!
madambutterfly89 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 Sigh. I was perfectly fine and now I have to deal with this mess...I hardly leave my house unless I have a surgical mask on. These Korean surgeons, I feel have no ethics or morals. Pure businessmen.
honeyjello Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 @Madambutterfly89 Does this mean everyone who gets zygoma reduction surgery or some sort of FC will experience sagging muscles, even those who get it done in their 20s? I read someone's post somewhere on pf that FC surgeries like v-line and zygoma reshaping can cause such an effect to the face but i haven't seen a real example of its after effects till your post of that lady. That is scary! To think wanting a slim face would lead to a one that sags faster.
madambutterfly89 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 This surgery causes looseness regardless of your age--bc you're reducing support. If the malar area has been reduced it will sag or just doesn't look right. Maybe it works for people who have HUGE cheekbones? But then, I would think sagging might still happen? Who knows what to believe anymore. I look at my before photos and don't know why the hell I was so dysphoric about. Every surgeon I consulted for revision mentioned that I was beautiful and can't understand why I did this. I was just too blind and brainwashed by all the photoshopped photos--now my face is elongated and narrow. I lost my once sculpted face. The eye area looks so odd without the volume of the zygoma. My define jawline and contour is now gone. One surgery cost me my life and a promising future.
sheonlylooks25 Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 How about getting Silhouette Instalift. Amazing results from Day 1, Day 3 and 3 weeks.
otomotto Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Hi, I thought I would pitch in my two cents on the matter. There are a huge number of studies done on malar bone reduction surgery and I have sifted through many of them as it is a procedure I am interested in. From my understanding, reduction of the physical malar bone is not exactly the source of facial sagging post-op. Rather, it is the dissection required for the surgeon to access the bone to cut it in the first place which determines sagging. The cheekbones hold up the flesh of your face and your cheeks - there is no other bone that hold this flesh up in place. During surgery, to make the bone cut, the surgeon needs to dissect some of your tissues from the cheekbone. That's why you need to find an extremely skilled surgeon who performs this surgery with limited dissection so that your flesh doesn't sag downwards due to gravity. When you detach too much of the cheekbone-flesh attachments, it can't hold itself up - so what happens? Gravity pulls it downwards. For younger people whose tissues are elastic and don't have laxity, they may have no sagging or very mild sagging depending on the extent of the detachment. Older people would have more sagging with their lax skin but with skillful and limited dissection, they too may experience no sagging at all. The typical amount of bone removed shouldn't cause loose skin. Most case studies I have read have 3-5mm of bone removed from the body of the malar bone, which is a reasonable amount. Skin/scar contraction should counteract this. I have read one case study from China where they even removed up to 8mm bilaterally from the malar body (which is an extreme amount). Fillers and fat grafting would provide a more superficial "lift" to conceal sagging from malar reduction surgery. Also, cheek implants wouldn't lift the skin as that is an outward pushing of the facial flesh, rather than an upwards one. To restore your look, you would need custom implants and a midface lift to lift the flesh. If you're happy with your bone results, you would need a sub-periosteal midface lift as your sagging would be on the deeper level. Don't waste your money on any form of a threadlift. With time, the threads will be like a steel wire cutting through cheese. 1
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