viamala Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Oh I see... I’d definitely research more about this procedure. Thanks @SheOnlyLooks25 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viamala Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Oh does that mean it is recommended to gain weight first before stem cell fg to breasts? When we lose weight post-op will the fat graft tissue be at risk of disappearing too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missorange Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Thanks @maybebaby1980 yes that is my problem...where to get 500gms of fat? I could try gaining more weight to see if any remaining breast fatty tissue expands naturally first. I looked up postop explant photos from days 0-2 on rs and it is quite a shock to see the folds of empty skin with no breast tissue taped up post-op but it does look better by day 2. In my research it seems people either know of friends who got an explant at age 28 after getting them at 18 or a friend who got widespread cancer with a 14 yo breast implant. As my BA incisions are below my breasts I shall ask my surgeon if he can trim excess skin during explant. Today's daily mail article has convinced me even more that I need explant. Any lady considering breast implants needs to be able to afford exchange or removal surgery at any time up to 10 years post. Some are naive and told they last a lifetime when really they should be changed every 10 years but of the 4 I have had despite CE European approval and the last one US FDA only one set lasted 10 years before it was banned, two sets ruptured or leaked within a few years and this last one caused lymphoma at 3-4 years in 2 ladies that we have heard about in the news. Clearly the message is our bodies are not meant for foreign implants unless it is vital for life like a pacemaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheonlylooks25 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 MissO read up on this product. Renuva Allograft Adipose Matrix (MTF Biologics) is a fat grafting alternative that doesn’t require liposuction. It’s made from donated human fat to treat small areas of soft tissue defects on the face and body, including liposuction divots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheonlylooks25 Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 I intend to have this for my fg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hautelady Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 There you go again - planning to put foreign substance into your body. Regarding fg to breasts, hope to find post 1-2yr patients from Fresh. Or if there are serious complications other than reabsorption, like lumps. That will determine if his technique is really good. I heard some good realself reviews on dr bednar . Girls from all over fly to NC but there's only a few post 1-2yr reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missorange Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Absolutely right @Hautelady we need to find post 1-2 yr patients from Fresh to check for lumps, reabsorption %, how many top ups required, pricing, etc. NC, USA will be more expensive than the UK or Korea? One clinic says £4750 for just removal which means about £2k for the private hospital fee and £2750 for the surgeon and anaesthetist so the rs average of £3k is not indicative of London pricing. Sigh. I rang my original surgeon's clinic and asked if I could get a price for just removal with trimming off excess skin. The clinic tried to reassure me saying only 5 women have got ALCL from implants but I cannot live with any risk of cancer or breast implant illness. I am already questioning whether my right hip pain, memory problems, recurrent profuse BRBPR with inconclusive colonoscopy (no piles as had surgery a decade ago and none seen) , chronic recurrent heartburn so severe i was on all 4s in agony for 2 hours with pending gastroscopy next week, months of dry eyes non responsive to hypromellose so have been using steroid drops, hair loss, anxiety, etc may actually be due to the silicone implants??? The only way to know is to get them explanted? No need for lollipop uplift as surely I would have no breast tissue to push up? Hoping to get a price by tomorrow so I can at least know how much money to raise by my appointment on the 6th. Remember that when you are older, you have other bills to pay, like childcare, mortgage, university fees etc. so it is a shock to know that if you want your implants out it costs as much as putting them in! I was so happy that my youngest is in her final year of university so coming to an end of school fees but then she dropped the bombshell that she wants to stay another year to get her masters! That's another £18,000! It makes you feel like you have no financial control when unexpected bills keep appearing like this. I don't mind wearing gel fillet push up bras under my clothes to give the illusion of breasts so can live with A-B cups. And have been telling myself that small natural breasts are more favourable now...health comes first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missorange Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 It's foreign material @SheOnlyLooks25 so not for me. It reminds me of meshes used in O&G which created problems as it too is a foreign material. We have to research natural or autologous solutions. I now have fat in my love handles after lipo to my thighs and abdomen so it could be a good store of fat to use to fill up my chest perhaps? But then comes the worry of asymmetry if the fat takes differently on each side or creates lumps! Sigh. Research, research, research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortunecat Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I know the answer to this! Just do a full body lipo except your breasts and butt. Then put on weight. Then start praying. Voila! Fats start to grow on your breasts and butt coz they have nowhere to grow except these 2 locations now. Wahaha. Just kidding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hautelady Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Actually, I'm not planning any BA but that RS fat transfer review from Asian 23yo nanana93 (warning, really graphic photos) for post-op 2+ years is really good. I kinda want her new natural boobies, lol. There's also one very skinny asian girl patient who did well. I know it could be pricey at 10K but it's 2 procedures in 1. You get lipo and a yours forever boobs, no swapping needed. I also read this fg to breast is common proc after mastectomy. I think I am having a midlife crisis - feeling ugly, needing to spend big $$$ for myself coz I am worth it, lol.@MissOrange, I'm assuming you have to explant first then heal for sometime (and not explant, lipo and shove the fats in 1 go, 3 procs in 1, lol).@Fortunecat, hahaha or they all could go to our face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlydbest Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 So true, forever needing to have a ps savings account with these procedures! But for you, just return the Birkin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missorange Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Wow I found that fat transfer review on rs you mentioned. Two years of updates! Incredible and very promising. Thanks @Hautelady you did research for me! Although $10k is a lot. I would actually be ok with her before photo, after 22 years of being top heavy. Yes we have all been there with a midlife crisis and wanting either a full makeover or spending big on luxury items. Just be careful of impulsive decisions and make sure it can be reversed in future if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheonlylooks25 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just read this from NBC News.Doctors, patients raise alarms about cancer linked to breast implantsAlthough doctors have linked the cancer to a specific kind of implant, manufacturers have no plans to stop making it or doctors to stop using them! NBC News Nov. 27, 2018 / 6:46 AM When Michelle Forney’s breast started swelling and itching, doctors told her she had mastitis, a common infection, and treated her with antibiotics. When she discovered that she, in fact, had a rare form of lymphoma and that it was probably caused by her breast implant, she was both furious and frightened. Forney is just one of hundreds of breast-implant recipients who have developed a rare blood cancer called anaplastic large cell lymphoma (ALCL). The Food and Drug Administration has been investigating reports linking breast implants with the cancer, and now has more than 400 reports about patients who developed ALCL after having a breast implant, including nine who died. “I had my breast implants for about 19 years. And everything was fine for many of those years until about three years ago,” when she developed major itching and pain in her breast, said Forney, who is 46 and lives in Sacramento. “Come December of last year, I woke up one day and my breast was the size of a volleyball. Within a day it grew and just engorged,” Forney told NBC News. “So I immediately went back to the doctor, saw my OB-GYN and she brought in a breast specialist. And they said: ‘Oh, breast mastitis. You have an infection.’” But a 10-day course of antibiotics did nothing to help. Forney’s doctors did not link the symptoms to lymphoma, she said, and mammograms showed NO problem. It took several more visits to determine she had lymphoma. Finally, after a plastic surgeon persuaded Forney to have her implants removed, DOZENS of tiny tumors were found around the implant.It’s taken several years to gather data but the FDA now believes that textured breast implants may be more likely to cause ALCL, although it says smooth implants are also linked to an increased risk. The trouble is that there’s no organized effort to put together data from people who have implants and those who have developed ALCL. “Many studies have looked to estimate risk and, depending on the source data and country, the global lifetime risk of developing breast-implant-associated ALCL for patients with textured breast implants ranges anywhere from 1 in 3,817 to 1 in 30,000,” the FDA said.New data from Australia indicates as many as one in 1,000 people with breast implants may develop ALCL. The FDA said the implants available in Australia are different from those sold in the U.S., and that complicates efforts to figure out the true risks. The FDA is holding public hearings on the issue next year to try to find out more about the potential links, and to ask people what should be done about it. So is the French government, and France’s national health authority is in the meantime recommending against the use of textured implants. “One of the problems in the United States is … with patients going to different doctors at different times and the doctors aren't necessarily communicating with each other and their medical records aren't communicating with each other,” said Dr. Diana Zuckerman, president of the National Center for Health Research, a nonprofit, nonpartisan advocacy organization based in Washington. “There's really no way to know when women with breast implants get any number of health problems, including cancer.” Plastic surgeons put in the implants, and may not communicate at all with the oncologists who diagnose and treat ALCL.IDENTIFYING RISK FACTORS Breast-implant-associated ALCL was first identified in 1997, and it can take about 10 years to develop on average after an implant first goes in. It usually stays in the area right around the implant, WHO researchers reported in 2016 in the journal Blood. But it can break out and spread. The American Society of Plastic Surgeons and the Plastic Surgery Foundation are each making a list of implant patients who develop ALCL. "The research will also focus on identifying potential risk factors and criteria detection and management of this disease," the groups say on a website devoted to the matter.There doesn’t seem to be a difference between silicone or saline filling in the implants. There’s some evidence that making them rougher — a design meant to make the implants less likely to move around inside the breast — may raise the risk. Some plastic surgeons prefer the so-called textured version because there’s evidence it reduces the risk of capsular contracture, a common complication that can leave the breast hard and misshapen. In the U.S., textured breast implants make up about 13 percent of the market. Researchers are not sure why textured implants would raise the risk of cancer, but there are several theories. It’s possible that the texturing creates particles that cause abrasion, leading the body’s immune system to respond and then malfunction. Or perhaps some women are genetically susceptible to ALCL. Another theory is that bacteria grow on the surface of the implant, causing a constant irritation that can lead to lymphoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheonlylooks25 Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 years is pretty good but I think it may even last longer than that in the breast because it's not like fat in your face where you move your facial muscles a lot. Probably also the amount of fat in the breast would be substantially more than what you would inject in your face. I have see pics of BBL (Brazilian Butt lift) patients still amazing 2 years post and you would use your butt muscles more frequently than your breast, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hautelady Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Is this capsular contracture (photo from realself, search 56yo with 25yo implants) Missorange, you had like 3-4 swaps of implants, did they all have these tissues surrounding each time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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