rememberme123

July 15, 2009

Hey flame.. have tried to pm you but seems like i can't do it.

Could you please update the forum here about your consult and experience with Dr Shah?

He is one of my top choices for rhinoplasty too.. but i can only do the surgery next year... Hopefully all goes well for you..!

Would really appreciate it if you could update.. THANKSSS!

Flame said: ↑

Hi Gonnawin,

If all goes well with the phone consult, I'm hoping to fly to Chicago in August. Will keep you posted as to the exact date. Must book the surgery first. You're more than welcome to come along during my appointment to review the photos and scope things out! I'm a 25hr flight away so it's a one-trip adventure for me. If I go, it will be for the surgery.

Hi John1,
Thanks for the advice. I don't mind it feeling hard as long as it looks natural. As it is, my current silicone not only looks unnatural but also feels it. If Shah is as good as I hope, revision should not be in my future. But it is good to know about it being difficult to revise later. I'll ask Shah about that during my consult.

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July 14, 2009

Why do some of you all think that Dr Rizk produce unnatural results for asian patients? I thought his results were rather impressive... the natural roundness still preserved.. Check out http://www.drsamrizk.com/mps-photogallery-nose-women.htm

He was actually one of my top choices.. cos he's also rated as one of few best surgeons to go to by Tatler magazine.. Does anyone has experience with Dr Rizk?

Also, does anyone has experience with Dr Jung in Korea?

Hopefully we could help each other out in this forum.. thanks!

July 14, 2009

HELLO!!
I'm really glad that everyone is in the same plight as me..

I am now considering Dr Jung, Dr Shah and possibly Dr Sam Rizk for rhinoplasty..
Dr Jung would be coming over to Singapore in August to give some talk and i hope i could get to meet him for a face to face consult..

July 8, 2009

Heya John1.. good that you are healing well and liking your nose
Do you mind posting before and after photos of your recovery phase?? can box out the eyes... etc..

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theres a huge amount of info out there. reading thru the pages of this thread taught me A LOT. its a good place to start. theres tons of b&a pics and adverts if you google asian nose job or asian rhinoplasty.

in terms of healing, i have healed pretty fast. about 10 days and 90% of my swelling is gone. but i think i am healing 3x faster than most. i can tell my healing routine if you pm me. it may be the routine or just genetics.

i had a bridge implant and alarplasty. the splint comes off within 5 days but you will still be super swollen. i mean super swollen. super swollen. unless you are a super fast healer, theres going to be no avoiding people noticing. but by day 10 you will probably look pretty good.

but keep in mind people will notice because you will look different. but it can make a real positive difference and for me its worth a few days/weeks of people noticing. you cant be a hermit. and if its your friends who cares. and if its strangers, who cares because they probably dont care and wont remember.

if you need bridge work, go for it. makes a huge difference. i did silicone which seems to work well for asians and the healing is much faster that using your own tissue. the bridge can take a long time to go down and you WILL be worrying about it for a few weeks. i am telling you from experience so prepare yourself for the stress. but it will go down. just be specific with your surgeon how many mm's implant you are getting.

alarplasty makes a big difference too. but there will be a scar that will be quite visible for a while. but its worth it.

i cant emphasize enough how important the psychological aspect of post-ps is. when you look in the mirror you will look like a freak and a different person cuz u r all swollen. you will want to look at the negative side of things and stress yourself. just have to be relaxed and let your body take its time to heal and trust your doctor.

trusting your doctor is huge in not being stressed. i had faith in my doc and his reputation which helped me not to worry too much about what i looked like.

sorry for the ramble hope this helps and good luck!

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July 8, 2009

Does anyone know who is Dr Anil Shah from Chicago? Has anyone had experience with him, with regards to rhinoplasty?
Any reply is appreciated!

July 5, 2009

i was given a choice because for my surgery, the surgeon normally uses L.A. but I can choose general if i'd like to be completely unconscious..

Thank you soooooo much for the reply!!

It is really tempting me to go to korea and check out more..

Anyway, all the best yea... and enjoy the good results of your surgery!

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hey remember me um ok answers to your questions lol and theres alot! haha

um just a note guys, im not korean nor do i speak the lanuage lol. and i was alone when i flew over from australia for surgery. but with grand surgery they provided a translator. i dont think any of the other places do. the nurses dont really speak english and only the eye surgeon speaks fluent english and a couple of the other surgeons however my rhino doctor didnt speak english so the translator was very helpful, shes from a different department and they called her in for me everytime i had a consult, she doesnt work at that clinic so she doesnt have loyalty towards grand surgery.

um initally i had no interest in getting surgery at grand, however when i walked past the clinic i thought to myself it wouldnt hurt to get more advice and check out as many clinics as i could so i could get all the information i needed in order to get the results i wanted and to see if they were gonna tell me anything different from the other clinics.

the first consult they called in the translator for me even tho the doctor i was speaking to spoke proper english. so that was a positive. then the next thing that was different was that all the staff there looked like they were operated on, however great and amazing results, they looked hot lol so that boosted my confidence in the place. um next was the doctors, they were great and werent just 'yes men'. i told them what i wanted and the doctor told me his suggestions, he didnt just say yes we can do that for you, he gave his advice and told me what would happen if i did this or if i didnt do this or if what i wanted was a bit too unrealistic so that really assured me that this was a good place. also he didnt try to upsell anything to me. other places were telling me i should get a chin implant as well, and i do want one however next time lol i thought it was gonna be too much of a change if i underwent all three surgeries. yer however this place just focused on what i wanted. but i asked the surgeon his advice and he said my chin is not very prominent, but we didnt dwindle on my chin.

i had open rhino, and underwent general anestetic because i had the bones broken and pushed in. i forgot what the procedure is called oste something... anyway it was done because i had a wide nose, the bones on the side of my bridge made my nose wide if u get wat i mean, so they were broken and pushed in and down, resected and what not.

your given a choice for either local or general? thats weird because normally it depends on the type of surgery ur havving to your nose and the doctor usually decides which is best. if its gonna be minor like tip plasty then u undergo local however if breaking bones or anything major then its general. i find it weird how your able to choose which anaesthesia you want.

um im telling you the next day when u wake up and the following day, your gonna look like a monster. like i did not recognise myself i was so scary looking in the mirror. this is not an overexagerration, but my whole entire face, eyes, forehead, nose, cheeks, jawline, a little of my neck all swelled up like crazy, like a balloon. i was thinking to myself what have i done for the first couple of days, i seriously looked like something from a horror show, i was having doubts and regrets but managed to find the humor in it and laughed it off. look forward and have faith. yer it took about 4 hours for my nose alone and 2 hours for my eyes.

also another reason why i choose grand was because, i went over in april thinking that its a quiet period for surgery. i was right like all the other clinics didnt have a waiting list and were not booked out, i could of done my surgery on that day or the next, however with grand surgery it was fully booked out! like there is an extensive waiting list and the earliest time i could book in for surgery was 10 days later!!! luckily for me someone earlier had cancelled so i had the option of doing it the very next day or wait ten days.

well anyways i hope that this information helps if theres anything else you need just ask, i think alot of people have gone thur what your going thur prior to surgery, with the questions and uncertainty.

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July 4, 2009

hey! same..! I think korea should be the experts of cosmetic surgery.. judging from how all the korean actresses' cosmetic surgery turn out to be. but i never have the courage to go there as it's a really FOREIGN country to me...

i am from singapore though.. if you are doing it next year, i would be doing it at the same time as you..

young_princess said: ↑

Hi all! I've been subscribing to this thread for awhile now but haven't checked it for so long. I really want to have rhino and eyelid surgery done next year. So I need to get cracking with my research. Has anyone here had rhino done in US? specifically NY? or know any good rhino surgeons in NYC? I really would like to stay here for this surgery. Only because I think the best place to go is Korea and I dont know anyone there/speak the language.

simply.jake: I dont know if u are/speak Korean, but did your doc and nurses speak English? Btw, your results are awesome!

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July 4, 2009

Sorry for asking so much.. really hope you could help me out!

As for my case, i also have moderate nose bridge height.. just needed definition on my tip as my tip is round and bulbous as compared to my entire nose.. and i have a small bump on my nose bridge..

I went for consultation and my doctor explained what he's going to do for me and it's similar to urs.. but i wun be doing silicon implant as i am satisfied with my bridge height..

Just like to ask you some questions..

Did your doctor explain explicitly what he's going to do for you too?

Are you from korea or did you fly over to korea to get the rhinoplasty?

What makes you choose grand plastic surgery clinic in the end?

Did you do open or closed rhinoplasty?

Did you undergo LA (local anaesthesia) or GA (general)? I am given a choice but i dunno which to choose.. LA is cheaper though. haha.

Right after the surgery (in day 1), is there lots and lots of swelling that you could barely recognize yourself?

Also, when u said you had the bones on the side broken and pushed inwards... are you referring to the portion of bridge that is closer to the tip or the portion of bridge that is just beside the eyes?

How long did your surgery take? (if you can remember).. My surgeon told me that it'd take around 4 hours!

Frankly speaking, I am really envious of your surgery results! It's natural and a subtle/ convincing change... and i think that's really impt.

Btw, I am most likely getting my surgery done next year (Jan-Feb).. intended to do it this August but decided to postpone it. patience patience patience patience. (chanting to myself)

Sorry once again for asking so many questions.. but really hope you could help me out! thankss..

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Hey john um it took about 3 weeks for me to see some definition in my tip, yer it takes a while to see results. Um i wish they were my natural eye colour lol, its thanks to contacts lol.

Thanks rememberme123, um with my nose i had a little silicon implant just at the top of the brigde to add a tiny bit of height, like u can see that my brigde was alreadly kinda high thats why the surgeon did a subtle job. um also i had the bones on the side broken and pushed inwards so my nose is narrower and also tip work. with the tip the surgeon used the cartilage from my nose to projected it more (grafting) and also his added steptum cartilage in the column something to tent up my nose for the projection, making my nostril holes elongated so it looks natural, instead of leaving it and have small nostril holes and a huge tip.

um i ended up going to grand surgery clinic in korea

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July 3, 2009

Great results simply jake!! and thanks for sharing the photos..

May I ask if you did tip-work (cartilage modification with cartilage graft) and bridge..? Which surgeon did you go to? The results are really natural!

Thanks in advance for the reply!

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hey guys um thanks finkle for telling me how to post pictures lol well this is me four weeks post op, as you can see theres bruises on the side of my face. im loving the results my eyes are much bigger and they just look alive and not droopy or tired.

im currently two months post op and its looking alot better now but i cant find the cable for my camera, sorry guys i will try to upload more. um let me know what u guys think. my nose is also alot smaller and more projected and defined.

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July 2, 2009

Yep, me too.. I am going to wait.. probably doing at the end of this year, or beginning of this year!

Let's wait patiently to improving our nose!!

sandra916 said: ↑

hello guys.
so i went to see my surgeon today. he said something diff from yesterday on the phone. he says i need to be off accutane at least two months prior to surgery. =/ and the other surgeon called me said and six months.

i really hate my nose and i wanted to fix it before i go back to school. but i guess it would have to wait until this winter. this really sucks.

anyway.. rememberme123. i hope all will go well with you. let me know what you decide to do!

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July 1, 2009

john1 said: ↑

get on a lot of chat boards, asks stupid questions, email people. the information you need is on the internet.

for me on the rhino i researched what the different methods of rhino are. for instance, rib versus silicone vs goretex, etc. then it also varies by your race and what type of procedure you want. its very confusing and you have to read a lot of boards and research but i think its got to start with that. there are pluses and minuses to each. the results will vary by race and the type of skin you have. if you are ethnic then i would only go with someone with experience in your race, not someone who claims to have experience, but someone who clearly does. it also makes sense to get a bunch of opinions. often times one surgeon may suggest something not because its the best thing for you, but its because that is all they know how to do and arent comfortable with other things. where i think a lot of botched up surgeries comes from is when a surgeon goes out of their comfort zone because of greed or because their pride does not allow them to admit they dont have sufficient experience. doctors are human just like everyone else.

once you figure out the type of procedure you want, then i think its all about finding a surgeon who has a lot of experience in this type of procedure and looking at their b&a pictures. but i discount pictures because they can be altered. go to chat boards, google, and email people directly who have gone with those doctors. usually people who have done this are more than happy to share and provide guidance to others.

when you have narrowed down the short list of surgeons then i met with them and also read A LOT of the feedback from the boards. you will hear both good and bad things. but when it comes down to it you go with your gut.

for me i wanted to avoid a bad result at all costs so i went with the person that on the boards and from my first impression had done this sort of thing with success many many times.

the last thing i would recommend (and had the luxury) is not focusing about is cost. for something as crucial as this i would not look to be saving money. its an investment and if done well can more than pay for itself over the long term. if there was a surgeon i wanted that cost too much, i would either ask for a discount or wait longer to save up enough money. if you go with a cheaper second rate surgeon then you run the risk of having lots of psychological grief that you cant put a price tag on and it will probably wind up costing more in the long run for revisions.

hope this helps.

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Hey, thanks for the advice..
the problem here is that there isn't much feedback on message board about the surgeon i am going too.. most people in singapore either go overseas for surgery or go to other surgeons (partly because this surgeon charges very very high price?)
and there are so far only 2 good reviews about him in singapore's message board.. and i can't contact these people.

Maybe I should ask the nurse whether it's possible to speak to patients who have done rhinoplasty with my surgeon.. hym...

June 30, 2009

Thanks sandra!!
I am asking my surgeon too.. let's update each other on this forum.. haha.

sandra916 said: ↑

hi guys.

so i have scheduled my consultation with a plastic surgeon tom. he did my last surgery. the receptionist asked him if it is okay to be on accutane and answer was yes. especially if it is revision rhinoplasty since it is rather conservative and closed surgery.

however, i am very nervous about it. like john 1 said, the plastic surgeon might want to do my revision surgery since he gains profit from it.. i dont want to have scarring. taht would be nightmare! maybe i should wait.

i would ask my dermatologist but i really really dont want him to know that im getting a nose job because i know him personally....( he asked me to be his gf two years ago.. although he is 12 years older than me!! it is a long story) so im torn whether to ask him or not.

i have called other surgeons to ask about accutane but they have not call me back. im going to go to the consultation tom and see what he says..

will keep you guys updated.. ttyl!

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June 30, 2009

Just some general questions to forumers here.. would really appreciate if you could share your thoughts...

I think getting a good surgeon is really the main determinant of the success of a rhinoplasty...

But how do you know you have chosen the right cosmetic surgeon then?

When you all get rhinoplasty from a surgeon, have you all seen the patients whom the surgeons have operated on in person before deciding on the surgeon?

Or do you just make your decision after consultation after seeing the before-after photos on the surgeon's computer?

Unfortunately, I do not have any close friends or relatives who have gotten rhinoplasty so I do not have any referrals.. so i am feeling rather insecured by my choice of surgeon now as it is based merely on the consultation..

June 30, 2009

Hello!!
I am on accutane now, 20 mg per day..today is the 19th day..
I have also planned for surgery in august.. i am going to consult my surgeon and would get back to this forum by wed.
Why don't you consult your surgeon too?

June 28, 2009

thanks john1..! May I know who are the prominent surgeons whom you have consulted that actually gave the green light regarding accutane? Where are u from? And what dosage of accutane are/ were you on? (sorry for the flood of questions!)

Think I'd double check with my surgeon again and I might wait a few more months.. not sure yet.. but according to the surgeon's nurse whom I am close to.. she actually told me that there are patients who are on LOW dosage of accutane getting rhinoplasty and they recover just fine.. maybe it's the dosage..

it just worries me to see so many different views regarding the risk involved (or if there is any, pertaining to rhinoplasty). Some say one must wait for 1 to 3 years (that's freaking long!) before surgery while some say that there is absolutely no link. My surgeon told me that so long as one does not do laser resurfacing/ dermabrasion.. it'd be fine.. I am super confused!

For alar base reduction, I have actually done it before. Just alar base reduction alone. (I am getting tip work on my nose next and that's all!) I did it last year, during May and I would consider it a success as the results were really natural and subtle.. no one knew i had something done.. they just thot i look like i lost weight? The surgery for alar base reduction alone only took 15 mins.. like a mole removal.. haha. I did not do tip work then as i thot they are different surgeries that involve different incision.. wanted to see if i'd be contented with just alar base reduction alone first.. haha

I think it's not so much about measuring how many mms was cut off but whether the reduced alar width still has the natural flare to it. (refer to the website url that i have shown u earlier on).. and whether the reduced alar fits your face.
The most unnatural result would be resultant nostrils that is triangular in shape... (the cut-off look), the nostril rim should still be intact.. with the natural curve..., if you can visualize what i am saying.

Maybe you can request for a digital imaging from your surgeon to see how you would look like from the amount he's going to trim off, for the amount of mm he's going to remove? Also ask about what technique of alar base reduction is he going to use... <- super important!

Looking forward to your reply... All the best!

June 28, 2009

anyway, maybe this website would help if you're considering alar base reduction..
http://www.rhinoplastyinbeverlyhills.com/how-can-you-narrow-your-nostrils-naturally

June 28, 2009

hello john1, recently you told me that accutane should be avoided when one is contemplating rhinoplasty..
I have searched the internet and they reflect the same results too.
However, when I asked my plastic surgeon and my dermatologist, they told me it is actually not a problem since i am on a low does of 20mg per day...
WHAT SHOULD I DO??

June 24, 2009

Yep thanks alot.

June 22, 2009

Hi, really need help on this..

Is it possible to take accutane when u are planning to get rhinoplasty?

Please do help me out on this!! thanks

June 15, 2009

deethers said: ↑

Hey everyone,

This is my second post since the last time I was on here. I'm getting Rhinoplasty done in August and I was either going to Dr. Charles Lee who is located in Beverly Hills or Dr. Vladimir Grigoryants who is located in Glendale. I know that Dr. Lee is pretty popular and specializes in Asian cosmetic surgery, but I've seen some of his work on the website and I feel that most of his patients come out with the same results. It's like he creates the same nose for all, if not most of his patients and does create a nose that truly fits each each individual patient. Despite that, I am leaning towards going to him for Rhinoplasty because of his expereince with Asian Rhinoplasty. Can anyone who had rhinoplasty surgery done with Dr. Charles Lee give me more details and advice about going to him? I'm a little nervous about it and I just need some insight from people who has got work done with him in the past. Any info would be truly appreciated!

In regards to Dr. Vladimir Grigoryants, I really like his work. He specializes in Rhinoplasty and he does a pretty good job judging from the pictures on his website. The only thing that gets me is that he has not had that much experience dealing with Asian rhinoplasty. Don't get me wrong, he does do Asian rhinoplasty when he gets the chance, but I feel that because he's worked with Latino, Caucasian patients more. Idk, I really like his work judging from the before/ after results on his website. Okay help me with this one, would you rather go to someone who is experienced with Asian Rhinoplasty or someone who specializes in Rhinoplasty but has not had a ton of experience dealing with Asian rhinoplasty?

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Think you could ask or PM some of the forumers here who have actually had personal experience with Dr Charles Lee to make a better decision? (can look at previous posts)

June 15, 2009

Hello...
Would just like to ask the forumers here.. Anyone who just/ are intending to only "enhance" the lower 1/3 of your nose?
(defining/ narrowing the nose tip and alar w/o augmenting the bridge)

How are the results like? Is it very subtle?

Would really appreciate any response.. thnks!!

May 17, 2009

Hello..
Would like to ask you all for suggestions..
I am intending to photoshop my nose and show to my plastic surgeon what I would like to achieve.. (of cos, the modification on the photoshop won't be a dramatic one so as not to create an overly-optimistic change)..

Do you all think it's okay?

February 18, 2009

Hello.. would just like to ask people around here for your advice or views on this...

Do you all think that it is unethical or irresponsible for one to deny / hide that he or she has undergone cosmetic surgery when he or she has actually done it?

I have been grappling with this issue for a loong time and this issue has been troubling me for quite sometime. Personally, I am keen on getting a nose job (rhinoplasty) this coming August... However, I am going to hide my nose job from friends (hoping that they won't find out) and if they ask.. i might just deny it/ shrug it off.... i really admire people who have the guts to tell everyone that they have had something done to their nose...but i don't gave the guts to do so.. i am not trying to imply that having a nose job is something shameful.. but I am just uncomfortable that people would know and this might invite gossips.. or people who might not know you well will think differently of you if they knew u get a nose job.

I have communicated this issue with my doctor for quite a number of times and he said that he would give me a change that is subtle... (that's my personal preference, don't want something dramatic.. i just want an improvement)

I am doing this surgery for myself as I really do not like how my nose look.. but I don't want people to know about this (except for my family members and boyfriend)... do you all think that it is possible?

Any advice on how to conceal/ hide a nose job too?

would really appreciate if people here could give me their advice / views... i am really troubled over this issue.. i wonder if people contemplating a nose job or have gotten a nose job feels the same way that i do... (the irony of wanting an improvement and yet afraid that people would know you have had cosmetic surgery.)

i hope you all would know where i am coming from... thanks. pls give me ur views! thx thx..

January 25, 2009

Heya Nissy, you can read the earlier pages in this forum... i read that quite a number of people had surgery done with Dr Chuang... maybe can read their posts.

Anyway, Happy Chinese New Year everyone... (even if u're not celebrating CNY) Wanna wish you people all the best in the upcoming year and may all our wishes come true! =D

Anyway, i was reading a blog entry by Xiaxue on her experience of rhinoplasty... she had alar base reduction, tip work as well as bridge augmentation. You might want to read as she also talks about her recovery period... Her blog entry is super entertaining!

Here is the url: http://xiaxue.blogspot.com/2007/01/diary-of-nose.html

She took only 2 weeks to look unoperated... and she had open rhinoplasty. Can I ask people who have had nose job done (or people who have relevant experience / knowledge)... Is her recovery faster than average or is it about the same as what you all have experienced?
Mkyru, Asin... you all mentioned that it took around 3 weeks or up to 6 weeks for you all to look unoperated on... But I don't see her nose is visibly swollen (maybe i can't tell from the photos) after merely 13 days... is it what I should expect too cos i am most likely going to the same doctor... or is it safer to give myself at least a month?

Just to ask... when you all have decided to get rhinoplasty.. do you have to wait for some time before you can actually undergo the surgery when you don't feel like waiting ANYMORE? (i.e.have to wait for summer break or holidays to come to get the surgery.. which is like half a year away) I have planned for rhinoplasty more than 1 year ago but I can't find anytime to do it only until August this year... and I am really getting impatient and distracted by this issue.. I can't wait! What should I do? Any similar experience?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

January 24, 2009

JadedJessica said: ↑

I just had my consultation with Dr. Charles Lee and debating whether or not I will have him do my rhinoplasty revision. Yes revision! My first nose job was done by a well-known, expensive surgeon. If you're asian and have "thick" skin opt for CLOSE RHINO and NOT OPEN rhino or else you will scar...like me resulting in a more bulbous nose, ugh!

mkryu - Sounds like had a nice experience and great results with Dr. Lee.

Has anyone else had work done by him or know of anyone? I remember reading a post in 2007 that he wasnt' very good. Want to hear a few more testimonies before I go in for my 2nd surgery.

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heya jadedjessica... sorry for asking, but why can't one go for open rhino if he or she has thick skin(all asian typically has thick skin though...)?

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