whitneyle

November 14, 2019

touni27 said: ↑

Hey guysss

I'm quite jetlagged so I decided to write about my PS journey so far~
This is my FOURTH des ( I have very bad eye surgeries becaue of my lack of research and I didn't pick my doctor thoroughly) I'm Korean so I've been researching a lot on Korean sites. Korean anti surgery cafes, and Korean daum cafes, Korean vloggers, Korean apps (only through forums though that don't use the full clinic names because of brokers. Koreans use a "special" way of writing for the Plastic surgery places where they only use certain symbols so that it's hard to advertise and you would only know that clinic if you knew the name of it. )
korea anti surgery cafes are honestly the best place to research I find. These places might not be as known to foreigners so you guys might have never heard of them, but I honestly prefer plastic surgery centers that cater more towards locals (Koreans) then to foreigners because if they do well locally through word of mouth, they don't have to market heavily on foreigners. I trust that a bit more as word of mouth travels fast in korea. I did research a TON on non Korean websites as well but I felt that a lot of it was limited to the clinics that heavily market towards foreigners.

I'm looking to have DES, FC, and Nose filler, and maybe soething for my undereyes to get rid of puffiness.
I've so far consulted with DES, and FC.

DES:
JJ Plastic Surgery
Doctor has 20 years of experience and he's got a korean youtube channel where he thoroughly explains through re surgical DES and seems to be much more detail oriented and has done a lot of cases of resurgery. he's also the doctor in let me in Thailand.
He was nice and the time he took with me was average I would say. He said I needed : (i'm going to try to describe this in English as best as I can since I only know the Korean terms)

Epicanthropy in the Upper Front (this is different from strict frontal epicanthropy) This epicanthropy opens up your eyes in the upper front in 45 degrees and pulls your tearduct direction up if that makes sense. This is different from taking the Mongolian fold in front away.

Back Epicanthropy (not sure the English term) this is where you make your eyes longer in the back

Bottom epicanthropy (not sure the English term) this is where you make the bottom lids lowered

Ptosis Correction (redo)

Double lid surgery (redo)

He only recommended me ptosis correction in the front upper part of my eyes after I asked him for it. TBH this is the part that I wanted the most and didn't like the most. I felt like to him it was okay, and was more of an after thought.

I liked that there was warranty for five years
Total: 520
Asked for model discount
500
Warranty: 5 years

LEE HEE MOON Plastic surgery
Skilled doctor has only done eye surgery for 20 years. He's known in south korea for being very good at revision surgeries.
his specialty is ptosis correction. He invented ptosis correction that is used widely in South Korea
Consultation was nice. He took time with me and was patient with my questions. He didn't recommend any form of epicanthropy. he just recommended ptosis correction in the front.
He shows slideshows of his before and after with a similar case as mine. He uses old slides to prove he doesn't do photoshop like so many ps centers do.
price for JUST ptosis correction and duobleyelid surgery re do.

The only thing about this doctor is that he's got a pretty bad rep on the web because he doesn't take responsibility when something goes wrong (no doctor can avoid complications ever, it's really what they do post surgery if you do get complications that honestly really really really matters). it seems like for him the surgeries either goes REALLY WELL like holy **** how did he fix that or...… the few that goes bad goes pretty bad and it seems like he doesn't take responsibility. WIth that said though He has done many many many great surgeries, but I know that for me I really need good post op care.

PRINCING: 680
I noticed that she asked if I searched for pricing first. I told her no (which was not true I have had researched his pricing)
There is a youtube video of him saying how much is pricing is as well. I think me saying no made her feel like it gave her the opportunity to increase the price by a lot
Lee Hee Moon is normally more expensive even to the locals but he is usually 500
680 was pretty high for me and I felt that the consultant wasn't very.... sincere
warranty was only for a year too and I had to actually text through kakaotalk and ask.

Glovi Plastic Surgery
Decided to consult with the Doctor there who only did eye surgeries.
Doctor was very very very very very nice.
He knew exactly what I needed for my eyes. He right away pointed out the front upper part of my eyes was too low which I felt the same. He looked at the asymmetry of my lids and asked me what type of lid design I would like. I told him I like big lids and I wanted to get a parallel lid. He lifted up my left eyelid and asked if this is what i wanted. And I agreed. He told me it's not far off from the line that I have now and he thinks it would look good. He pulled the back of my eyes and said I have no room for back epicanthropy and it would lead to complications if I choose to get them but he can perform bottom epicanthropy since my eyes were angled pretty high up. He said my eyes are pretty asymmetrical and he cant' make them perfectly symmetrical but it would be a lot better then what I have now. I appreciated this as it was honest. out of all the doctors he was the most detailed and wrote down the most amount of notes.
I asked for upper front epicanthropy and he said he thinks he can correct what I felt was a low upper front eye with just ptosis but if I really want it he can perfom it. I told him I really wanted it XD so I pushed to get it. He answered all my questions!

Consultant: She was really really really nice as well. I told her that theres plastic surgery places that up their price when they find out that i'm from overseas and she said that that felt stupid and unfair and she said as I'm consulting FC if I feel like any place was doing that to me I can kakao message her and ask if the pricing that they were giving was fair or not. She also told me that if there's something wrong with the eyelid surgery while i stay here for the month I can always feel free to come back and get it corrected. and even after i leave for the states even after i'm gonen for a full year i can come back and get it redone as the warranty is for three years. I thought this was really nice. I told her I wanted to get my moles removed and she gave me a recommendation of a clinic she used to work in and told me that if I say she sent me there they will give me a discount (which they did ^^ and I got my moles removed, so far it seems like it turned out well)

Total: 420
for:
Ptosis correction
double eyelid resurgery
upper front epicanthropy
and lower epicanthropy

with 3 years of warranty
I chose this place because the doctor felt more detailed and he also knew exactly what I wanted and what I felt was wrong with my eyes before I had to tell him.

FC

Now I've done so much extensive research with FC that I pretty much knew which clinics I wanted to visit.
There really was only two:
Gyalumhan and Madeyoung

I still haven't been able to consult with Gyalum yet which is kind of meh, but I pretty much underestimated how busy these clinics are.

I did consult with Madeyoung though
By far the best looking clinic I've seen out of all I've been so far. Very VERY well designed and clean.
The consultant SHES SO NICE OMG
SHES LIKE THE BEST. I feel really bad because I was late in my consultant and.... I missed another appointment T_T but she was still really nice and understanding.

Doctor:
So freaking friendly.
I"ve never met a doctor whose so friendly. He's very nice and feels seriously like he's your oppa.
he took the LONGEST time with me. he explaind every little thing and was very honest about sagging.
He is VERY knowledgeable in the fact that not everyone wants the Korean doll face, chop off everything, make me super skinny pointy Vline.
He said if I wanted to keep my cheekbones then he would do less SHaving on the jaw as it would cause imbalance.
he said he always leaves a little bit of an angle because if he shaves the whole thing you look like you have a dog's jaw.

He also explained very thoroughly of how cheekbone skin sagging works.
and he said no matter what you can't avoid skin sagging. it's really about where the sagging occurs.
If you push in the side cheekbones then your skin on the sides will sag. BUT if you have a gaunt face the sagging wont be noticeable to normal eyes as it will fill the hollows of your cheeks.
If you push in the 45 degree too much then you get the sagging that everyone is afraid of. the nasalaboid fold swollen looking skin sag. He recommended me that if I really want cheekbone surgery and im most afraid of skin sagging, to only do the side ones (This is different from quick zygoma btw)
but he also was very honest and told me that if I had a twin sister that I would still age faster then she would.
I have to weigh the benefits of looking prettier now vs getting older later. (ofcourse there's lifting options that I can do but he said this is something I need to really think about and decide on)
But he said there's no way I will look like a grandma if I do the zygoma surgery this way.
He also includes lifting and fat removal as well in the procedure

He always shows CT after procedure.
and I have to say it's the cleanest looking CT before and after I've seen comparatively. He is really skilled at bracing those cheekbones. it looks clean af.

VLINE
we took a good look at the nerve line.
and he showed me how he can cut the bones and design it
I asked about the skin sag on the bottom jaw that I see here on purse sometimes
he performs lifting in order to prevent it but he said that the amount of skin bunch that happens depends on how far your chin is from your neck and also what type of jaw you have. So if you have like super super super super v line and very very very very short chin to neck length and have never done vline you would still get that skin bunch when you crane your neck because as you can imagine theres just not that much space.
So my doctor has a natural vline. he showed me that the difference between square jaw people and vline people (naturally) for Asians is that if you have a square jaw you don't notice the scrunch skin as much as you do when you don't have a square jaw. He showed me how when he sits straight and he cranes his neck a little bit (he has a natural vline, this doctor is young and he's a good looking doctorlol) you can see the skin more whereas when I do it because my jaw is so much bigger it doesn't happen at all, so that is something that I should keep in mind but you don'tnotice it until you try and look for it.
This is different from sagging without lifting. That's extra skin that you gotta get rid of through lifting procedure which he does with vline.

I"m having a second consultation with the doctor ( it was supposed to be today.. but I missed it >.<)
because I still have questions, but he took a lot of time with me.

My consultation with gyalum is at 11/04
it's pretty late...

I hope to write about it too
the only thing I am iffy about gyalum is that they do thread lifting after Vline instead of real lifting.

My des is scheduled for 11-05
and my FC is scheduled for 11-07 with madeyoung and will cancel if I like gylaum consult better.
I have an IWELL FC consultation tomorrow and I will write about it here!

THanks guys!! I will keep updating

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Hi,
Thank you so much for your detail review. I'm so happy for you that you're finally happy with your eyes after 4 revisions, which made me very interested in Glovi Plastic Surgery for my DES, but I'm also looking to have a rhinoplasty revision and prefer to get it done at the same clinic. Do you happen to know if Glovi good at rhinoplasty?
Thanks.

October 30, 2019

wishingstar said: ↑

Hi @whitneyle - Awesome! Which doctors did you consult with at View, Hyundai, UVOM, and DA? All 4 of those are on my list (along with Migo, Banobagi, Opera, maybe Nana), actually! I'm planning to go in November but am still trying to finalize which doctors I want to have consults with at each place. Any tips you have on which doctors you consulted with at those places and what you thought of them would be great and appreciated, and we can compare notes! Who did you request at each clinic?

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I didn't have f2f consultants with them yet, only online consultants. I will be there on Dec 2, so will see how it goes. I'm also planning to consult with PR, Naturalism and Premier but these clinics doesn't have English consultant, so I can't get online quotes from them yet, and will have to bring my own translator too, but I heard they are local famous so I'm really interested in them. I've also heard that their prices are not cheap either

Here are the list of doctors that I'm interested for each clinic:

View - Dr Jeong JinWook for nose and Dr Kim Jeong Min for eyes. I'm more than likely to go with View at this point just because they give me a pretty good deal compared to all other clinics, and I also saw Dr Jeong works which I think pretty good.

Hyundai - Dr Lee Seong Pyo for nose and Dr Hwang Ho for eyes

UVOM - Dr Lee for nose and Dr Kang for eyes. Dr. Lee seem pretty good with nose but I know a couple people complained about their eyes with Dr. Kang so I might not going there.

DA - Dr Ann Seung Hyun for nose and Dr Bae In-Ho for eyes. I think their works are pretty good, but again, their prices are very high, however I still want to go f2f consultant with them, hopefully I can bargain them down )

Hope this help and also share what your thought about them.

October 29, 2019

wishingstar said: ↑

Hi! This is the thread where I saw the mention of the accidents with DA: https://beautyhacker.com/forums/topic/952548-my-personal-experience-da-clinic-daprs/page-3
scroll down to the post by tiffanyfah and start reading from there
and https://beautyhacker.com/forums/topic/952548-my-personal-experience-da-clinic-daprs/page-4
I think there's some confusion about whether it was at DA or not, though, as you can see from the thread. I don't understand Thai, though, so many someone who does can help us out

I wanted to do my nose with Dr Lee Dong Chan (formerly at View, now at DA) but was told by DA that he no longer does noses. I am considering revision rhino with either Dr. Ahn or Dr Kim Joo Youn at DA, but I have only heard of Dr Ahn. I may also consuilt with Dr Cho for eyes (that's just who the consultant online recommended... no idea if Dr Cho is good. Have you heard anything?) , Dr Ahn or Dr Lee Dong Chan for double jaw / facial contouring (not sure which is good). and TBD not sure which doctor for lower face and under chin fat / skin removal without cutting bone if facial contouring / double jaw is not necessary.

Which doctor Lee are you considering at DA? Is it Dr Lee Dong Chan? I wonder if the person I corresponded with on Kakao from their clinic is misinformed about him no longer doing noses if you were able to get a nose consult with him! I read good things about Dr Lee Dong Chan here, but I'm sad that I was told he no longer does noses... wonder if that's correct or not, though.

Maybe I will contact Nana, too.
Which doctors are you considering at Nana?

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Hi,
I've also consulted with View, Hyundai UVOM and DA.
I've also watched this Korean famous youtuber, he had his eyes and nose done at DA, and his result were very nice, that's why I'm interested in DA but the quote they gave me were very high so I don't think I will go there.
When are you planning to go Korea?

October 15, 2019

Alythejelly said: ↑

Hiya, I’ll be there from 30th November - 16th for my surgery and I’ll be going alone as well! It will be my first time to Seoul too so I’m keen to explore(❁´◡`❁)*✲ﾟ* HMU!

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Hi,
I'll be there from Nov 30th - Dec 19th and I'll be going alone too. Do you know which clinic you will go?

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In South Korea, PS journey: FC and DES and Nose Filler and.... Undereyes?

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Anyone going to Seoul Korea for FFS this November/December 2019?