murshroom

July 25, 2019

michelliebeans said: ↑

Oh can you tell me which doctor and where he's at now?

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He is dr Jeong Jin Wook,works at View now

July 21, 2019

KellyKellybaby said: ↑

Hi, i am going to Korea on August 5th to meet a doctor to have my jaw fixed. I did v line surgery few years ago and i do like the frontal view of my face but my profile look weird because the doctor cut way too much bone and there is no angle at all .Now i need jaw reconstruction surgery , I will need to take 3d xray to have consultation with doctor, then my doctor will make my 1：1 face mode so he can discuss with me , then he will make my implants .

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Hi Kelly,could you please check your dm?

July 19, 2019

alicepark said: ↑

To begin with, I'd like to share my picture before the surgery.
I am 28 years old and 100% Korean girl from the US. As you can see my picture, I was concerned about my 45 degrees cheekbones which made me look stubborn and old. So I tried searching information online and I saw a review that Faceline clinic was famous for facial contouring and 2 jaw. I am a quite skeptical person about exaggerated and false advertisements, but I also knew about Korean makeover program called 'Let Me-in' and remembered that this hospital was out in season 4, so I looked up information about this clinic and made a reservation through Kakao.
Of course, it is true that I prefer Korean plastic surgery clinic because I am Korean, but going from the U.S. to Korea took more time and money than I thought.
Anyway, as soon as I went to the hospital, I got counseling, and the counselor recommended me cheekbone reduction as I expected. She told me that their clinic insists the surgery method which minimizes the side effect (saggying cheeks) chin of the cheekbones by reducing cheekbones without deleting bones. They called it 'Non-eliminating cheekbone reduction'.
I was worried about the side effects of my cheeks so it sounded good to me.

After consultation I met with Director Lee Jin-soo, who was very kind and answered all my questions professionally.
He showed me a picture of before and after pictures and told me how much change would be made in the impression with cheekbone reduction surgery. Of course I'm not a serious case, but....I decided to trust Lee Jin-soo.

I had surgery on the second week of May and now I have lost a lot of swelling. I'm more confident than before and I'm so satisfied because I became naturally pretty.
and moreover they provided me free swelling laser, so I felt like I lost my swelling faster.
Actually, the price wasn't cheap compared to other places, but I believed in dr. Jinsoo Lee and Faceline's safety system so I think it's worth paying.

If anyone is interested in cheekbone reduction, I would like to recommend Faceline that is famous for facial contouring. Later I'm going to bring my friends too.
If you have questions, please DM me !

This is my after
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You look so beautiful after the surgery,could you please share your before photo here?

July 18, 2019

Barabashka said: ↑

Hi Madambutterfly89, please could you reply in DM regarding clinic where you have done surgery. thank you in advance

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She told me to dm her but she never replied to me,what a shame!

July 14, 2019

Madambutterfly89 said: ↑

Regardless you should always ask to see photos if they’re willing to share. I have seen reviews of girls who were happy with their results. Then I see their before and after and they look 100%better before. There was a girl at regen who looked like a model and had her cheekbone and jawbone reduced. She went from beautifully sculpted to a very plain and basic looking asian girl. Harsh but the truth. I think some people have body dysmorphia it so brainwashed by Korean beauty that they just wanna change their face.

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Can you check your inbox pls?

July 10, 2019

Madambutterfly89 said: ↑

Yes dm me

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Do you have any name of surgeon who had an aesthetic eye?’cause I’m really scared of getting zygoma reduction but my cheekbones are too wide,it makes my face look older than my age

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Can you please check your inbox?

July 10, 2019

lilykim said: ↑

Hello everyone!

My surgery date for my FC and rhinoplasty will be tomorrow (July 9)! I haven’t seen many reviews for Opera PS clinic, so I’ll be making a review for my pre-op process, post-op and the results with before and after (I’m also planning on videotaping whatever I can/the whole thing, but that’ll be posted once I’m back in my home country and my face starts to take shape). I’ll keep you guys updated throughout the whole process.

Surgeon: Dr. Kwon Soon Beom (chief surgeon and board certified)
Procedures:
- Facial contouring (3)
- Rhinoplasty (alar + tip)

Consultation (pre-op):
I had my consultation last week. First impressions were that the clinic was mid-sized and was very clean. It was fairly busy. I saw mainly Koreans with a couple of foreigners. Which means the locals trust this place (this is how I intrepreted it).

I met with the English consultant, Mel. She was great! Spoke fluently, explained the whole processes well and more importantly, she was not pushy at all. Whenever I had any questions, she was prompt with answering them and helping to ease my fears face to face and through Whatsapp. The only downside was that they only have one English consultant (to my knowledge) so you may be waiting a bit because there may be other clients she has to tend to. They do have other interpreters who speak Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

We met with Dr. Kwon, who spoke English fluently in a such a nice, calm manner. He was very realistic about my expectations, which is completely appreciated. All of the areas I wanted to touch, he just knew just by looking at my face. I had some concerns about the risks of facial contouring and he placed me at ease right away! (I’ll add more to this later.)

I had consultations with other clinics, but ultimately decided to go with Opera due to the reputation of the surgeon and his whole demeanour. He didn’t try to rush the consultation at all and answered all the questions I had. Not to mention, the prices they quoted me were fantastic compared to the other clinics. As most of you may already know, most clinics charge crazy foreigner prices. For this clinic, I believe they are more upfront with their prices. Of course, there is room for negotiations face to face but I think they may also depend on what procedures you are looking at.

Note: if you guys wanted me to talk about the other consultations I had with other clinics, let me know! I can add them on here.

I’m typing this on my phone so there may be mistakes, but I’ll add more/edit later. Wish me luck guys!! Will keep you posted!

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Good luck for your surgery,keep us update ))

July 10, 2019

Strawberry59 said: ↑

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Wow,your result look good,I want to have the consultation with him for my FC then

July 9, 2019

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Madambutterfly89 said: ↑

That’s what’s they tell Yu to come over ther ass. You’re basically peeling the soft tissue, muscle off the bone. The laxity is not the same as aging. Your skin will retract some but it’ll never be as tight as ore surgery. I don’t know if facelift will help you help younger patients bc I myself have not had one yet.

Many people don’t need this surgery but way to brainwashed by these photoshopped photos. If you look had older people, they can never look like they were in their 20’s even after a facelift bc the underlying structure has changed. Facial bone and soft tissue changes as we age. A plastic surgeon making a living off of your insecurity and uneducated medical background will never fully tell you the honest truth. I had his surgery and know several people who had his done. We all regret it bc it changes the way your cheekbones use to highlight the eyes. You may not have laxity issues now but you will soon then later.

You also have to consider if removing the width of your facial contour might also elongate the face. Regardless, if you’re going to have it done make sure you do it with a surgeon who has an aesthetic eye. Never take too much bone. Less is more and show your surgeon photos of your preferred aesthetics. I’ve already made my mistake and now finding a solution but I hope I can help other people from suffering the same fate.

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Do you have any name of surgeon who had an aesthetic eye?’cause I’m really scared of getting zygoma reduction but my cheekbones are too wide,it makes my face look older than my age

July 9, 2019

Madambutterfly89 said: ↑

That’s what’s they tell Yu to come over ther ass. You’re basically peeling the soft tissue, muscle off the bone. The laxity is not the same as aging. Your skin will retract some but it’ll never be as tight as ore surgery. I don’t know if facelift will help you help younger patients bc I myself have not had one yet.

Many people don’t need this surgery but way to brainwashed by these photoshopped photos. If you look had older people, they can never look like they were in their 20’s even after a facelift bc the underlying structure has changed. Facial bone and soft tissue changes as we age. A plastic surgeon making a living off of your insecurity and uneducated medical background will never fully tell you the honest truth. I had his surgery and know several people who had his done. We all regret it bc it changes the way your cheekbones use to highlight the eyes. You may not have laxity issues now but you will soon then later.

You also have to consider if removing the width of your facial contour might also elongate the face. Regardless, if you’re going to have it done make sure you do it with a surgeon who has an aesthetic eye. Never take too much bone. Less is more and show your surgeon photos of your preferred aesthetics. I’ve already made my mistake and now finding a solution but I hope I can help other people from suffering the same fate.

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Do you think our face will be weird after getting Vline without zygoma reduction?like the cheeks look so wide and the chin is so pointy?can fat grafting be help?

July 9, 2019

Saisoojin said: ↑

UPDATE:

for GnG
After looking at my pictures and my dream pictures
They suggested a Osteotomy on top of everything
Quoted for 1,000,000 KRW + 10% VAT
(I gotta say when i first read the message I thought, ohhh geez an they trying to scam me for unnecessary procedures however NANA also suggested an Osteotomy after so it’s fine)

NANA:
Rhinoplasty nose bridge and tip plasty using dermis
5,000,000 KRW
Alar reduction
1,000,000 KRW
Osteotomy
500,000 KRW
My online consultant Kylie was also nice enough to tell me that they offer big sales promotion period once every month so I should look at for that nearer to my preferred time of surgery.

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I had online consultation with Nana and Kylie was really nice

July 9, 2019

Marisa_Han said: ↑

I have a friend from Vietnam who came to Korea to have a nose lift surgery by Dr. Jeong Jin Wook. This is a picture after 3 months of her operation. The result is amazing, isn't it?

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Hi Marisa,do you have any photo of Facial Contouring results by dr Jeong Jin Wook,’cause I’m interested in going to View and get my FC done by him,thanks

July 9, 2019

Marisa_Han said: ↑

Sure! Dr. Jeong is an experienced doctor. He performed very successfully with surgery rhinoplasty.

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Have you had any surgery with him?because I read some articles said he is very picky in his work,so I believed that he is a good doctor

July 8, 2019

lilykim said: ↑

Hello everyone!

My surgery date for my FC and rhinoplasty will be tomorrow (July 9)! I haven’t seen many reviews for Opera PS clinic, so I’ll be making a review for my pre-op process, post-op and the results with before and after (I’m also planning on videotaping whatever I can/the whole thing, but that’ll be posted once I’m back in my home country and my face starts to take shape). I’ll keep you guys updated throughout the whole process.

Surgeon: Dr. Kwon Soon Beom (chief surgeon and board certified)
Procedures:
- Facial contouring (3)
- Rhinoplasty (alar + tip)

Consultation (pre-op):
I had my consultation last week. First impressions were that the clinic was mid-sized and was very clean. It was fairly busy. I saw mainly Koreans with a couple of foreigners. Which means the locals trust this place (this is how I intrepreted it).

I met with the English consultant, Mel. She was great! Spoke fluently, explained the whole processes well and more importantly, she was not pushy at all. Whenever I had any questions, she was prompt with answering them and helping to ease my fears face to face and through Whatsapp. The only downside was that they only have one English consultant (to my knowledge) so you may be waiting a bit because there may be other clients she has to tend to. They do have other interpreters who speak Russian, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

We met with Dr. Kwon, who spoke English fluently in a such a nice, calm manner. He was very realistic about my expectations, which is completely appreciated. All of the areas I wanted to touch, he just knew just by looking at my face. I had some concerns about the risks of facial contouring and he placed me at ease right away! (I’ll add more to this later.)

I had consultations with other clinics, but ultimately decided to go with Opera due to the reputation of the surgeon and his whole demeanour. He didn’t try to rush the consultation at all and answered all the questions I had. Not to mention, the prices they quoted me were fantastic compared to the other clinics. As most of you may already know, most clinics charge crazy foreigner prices. For this clinic, I believe they are more upfront with their prices. Of course, there is room for negotiations face to face but I think they may also depend on what procedures you are looking at.

Note: if you guys wanted me to talk about the other consultations I had with other clinics, let me know! I can add them on here.

I’m typing this on my phone so there may be mistakes, but I’ll add more/edit later. Wish me luck guys!! Will keep you posted!

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Hi,good luck on your surgery.please keep us update)

July 6, 2019

touni27 said: ↑

Hey guys,

I've been researching.... A LOT like endlessly with cheekbone sagging because it's the most "common" complication after cheekbone surgery. IM NOT A DOCTOR BUT IM AN ENTHUSIAST. so i've read a lot but take my writing with a grain of salt.

ALSO my english might be a little bit weird atm because i've read soooooo many korean posts that I find my grammar flipping sometimes @ _ @.

I decided to make a post to share some knowledge about sagging from cheekbone reduction.

First things first: There is always a chance of sagging with FC. But whether or not it's noticeable, or fixable depends on you and the doctor.

Second, wanted to point out that there's a difference between cheek sagging with the skin (comes from aging, skin wasn't very elastic, or because it's loose aka you cut too much bone off) and what looks like cheek sagging because of fat distribution/ non union of bone/ muscle tissue weakness.
Here are some IRL examples of what these ladies considered as cheek sagging from their cheekbone reduction surgery:

These pictures I pulled from IRL reviews in Gangnam Sister (an app like babitalk) (if anyone wants to know where they got their PS from DM me)

Before I get into my.. ESSAY I just wanna get these questions out of the way.

Can your skin stick back to your bone after it's been cut?
The answer is a soft kind of. The underlying tissues are built to be able to reintegrate. So yes they will reattach to your bone. In the case with tendons being cut it they do heal. But they tend to heal slower and become weaker in quality.
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4241426/)

Do you constantly have to get facelift after the Zygoma surgery or can you just get it once?
(after researching about facelifts, and zygoma surgery and how it affects your tissues this is my answer, take it with a grain of salt)
If you cut too much and got loose skin, you can get a facelift with a good effect. And you will age normally like everyone else after that. How fast you age will depend on your skin elasticity not necessarily from your cheekbone surgery. But remember you can have tissue sagging which is different from your skin sagging, and tissue sagging can definitley be from cheekbone surgery, this will be explained down the line.

"SAGGING" FROM FAT

This is a year post op and she considered this as facial sagging because you can see slight bulge of Nasabloid fold there. This is actually not skin sagging but rather left over fat in her nasbloid fold and around her face.
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She and i have been messaging and she is going to get lipo not a facelift to rid of that illusion of "sagging". I wanna follow up with her and see how that goes.

SWOLLEN SAGGING

This is a before photo:
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This is AFTER photo. Two weeks post op:
She wrote in her review she's worried about her skin sagging because of how it looked, she knew it was going to sag because she lack elasticity in her face. She wanted to get lifting once her swelling went down.
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most of this sagging look she says is from her being swollen. This is what she looks like a month post op:
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It's a little better but it's not fully gone yet.
And then in three months:
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Hard to tell cuz she's so far away but she wrote in the review that she's happy with her result and that she didn't notice facial sag at the end. (I took it with a grain of salt though because there were no close up shots but it defintiley looked a lot better)

SKIN SAGGING:
This is an example of a 40 year old woman getting FC..
She has had multiple acounts of ultra lifting prior to FC surgery.
The far left is the before picture, The middle is skin sagging from FC a year post op, and the far right photo is after Facial lift.
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The doctor notes that no matter how much he pulls the skin it's impossible to get rid of your nasal fold completely like she was in her twenties.

Notice also guys, the jaw tends to look more square when you push in the cheekbone too much. she looked like she had a slimmer jaw before her FC IMO.

Sagging from damaging muscles/ tissues

This one is a really big deal. I haven't been able to find IRL examples of this because it's hard for me to pinpoint and be like SHE HAS SAGGING BECAUSE OF THIS. Even doctors can't sometimes tell what the sagging is caused by let alone me judging from photos lol. All the examples I provided I went off by their personal review and their experience after talking to their doctor. Or the doctor himself.

Sagging from Poor surgery is pretty irreversible when it comes to tissue damage.

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See those muscles right there? That's your zygomaticus muscles. And see where they are located? They pull up your face. If those muscles get damaged, that's when you get real trouble cheeksagging and pretty much irreversible (but i might be wrong, i haven't come across a procedure that provides solution though). Because those muscles are responsible for holding your face up (pretty much) when these muscles get weaker, these muscles, the fat, tissues they all start to fall, and you end up with a look that looks like:
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Your nasolabial fold will start to look prominent and kind of swollen. these muscles according to the doctor
( from this youtube video: (it's in korean, not sure if there's subtitles i didn't check))
will always get weaker after cheakbone surgery, or the distance will get shorter since your cheekbones have been pushed in. A shorter distance causes a looser muscle. Hence things can start to falllll.....

Sagging from nonunion
It's when the cheekbones don't get properly braced with the "pins"
I will continue this one lol next post.

As of now we have Three very common cheekbone procedures.

1) making an L shape cut, pushing, and then bracing it with metal. This one is the most common procedure done because it avoids those muscles.
2) Shaving: Notice how the zygomaticus muscles are attached underneath the bone. They shave the cheekbone above the muscles.
3. QUICK zygomaticus surgery: They break/ fracture at the outer cheekbone (close to the ear) and they push in. You get to fix your side cheekbones but not the 45 degree. It's hard for me to explain this procedure with words, i wish i can draw it.

These procedure all avoid the muscles, so in theory when done right risk to sagging should be minimal.
BUT if you cut too much for sure you will have a greater chance of sagging for obvious reasons.

When doing your consultation ASK YOUR DOCTOR about the cheekbone muscles and how they will avoid it. Ask them about the surrounding fat as well. Ask them how your skin elasticity is.

Some doctors get as detailed in consultation as touching your face and feeling your skin, and finding where exactly the fats are located. I think this is really important because along with CT scans and relaying information this will give additional info on how your face is built.

Take all this with a grain of salt. I am no expert just wanted to share my knowledge cuz i researched A LOT. and wanted to share ^^

From hundreds before/afters i've seen. I've seen more good results then bad ones but ive read a lot of people complaining about cheek sagging. Although after examining some of the photos of the people saying they had bad sagging i felt like the person didn't actually have cheek sagging....But it is hard to sometimes tell from photos. But i also believe that it is true that when you think you have cheek sagging you start to see it too. I had this case when i was in my early twenties. I got so paranoid about aging that i started to see and believe that i had skin sagging and i looked 40 when everyone still thought i looked 12. So there is still that too.

Here is an example of korean celebrities that people consider to have sagging from zygoma surgery

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Thanks guys~!!

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Hi Touni,thank you so much for this post.Is there anyway that dr can cut or push a little bit of my cheekbones?And do you think what questions should I ask them during the consultation about FC and zygoma reduction?

July 5, 2019

memeboohoo said: ↑

Gyalumhan is blacklisted. This clinic ruined someone's face.

You can read more about it here:
https://beautyhacker.com/forums/topic/989495-blacklist-of-the-korean-plastic-surgery/

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Wow,thank you so much for your info

July 5, 2019

realpetals said: ↑

Has anyone done double eyelid surgery at Gyalumhan before? It was recommended to me and the website looks pretty good: http://enm.gyalum.com/

I'm trying to look for more reviews online and hope there're people who went there before or have some insights to share about them.

Thank you!

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Hi,I want to get a consultation with them about FC also

July 4, 2019

cleanderella said: ↑

Hi i have not done my des. I am still in the process of shortlisting but I would highly suggest you join the kakaotalk groups (please only join the regulated ones and not the ones that seem legit on the outset but actually filled with promoters)

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Hi Cleanderella,do you have the link to the Kakao group,I’m going to Seoul on Oct and still doing research for eyelids surgery,thanks

July 4, 2019

ginochon said: ↑

https://www.instagram.com/gyalumhan_english/

I just found that they have an English Instagram too! They cater to foreigners!

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Yeah I looked at their photos on Instagram too,the results are nice

July 3, 2019

Hi Peri,I really like your result and I’m considering to get mini Vline instead of Vline.If you don’t mind can you plesiosaur share your before photo ‘cause I can’t open the imagine

July 3, 2019

threewhitefeathers said: ↑

Hey everyone -

So I started a serious Instagram investigation using Korean plastic Surgery hashtags (i’m Korean) and have seemed to come up on a goldmine or Korean clinics that seem to only cater to Koreans, as they only write in Korean and don’t “advertise” or cater at all to English speakers. One that I found which looks particularly interesting is a clinic in Gangnam called Gyalhumhan (갸름한). This translates to “slender” or Korean people use it to describe a vline shaped face.

Wondering if anyone here has heard of them ? Particularly any local Koreans ? I’m really loving the before and after photos of their fc procedures.

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Wow,the results look good.Did you choose Gyalumhan for your surgery?

July 2, 2019

Thile said: ↑

I’m going to Korea this August for my rhino.My Korean friend introduced me about Nana.She said Nana is well-known among local. We can not find any info about nana online cause I think this clinic does not use advertising for brands.it is only known for local people

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Hi Thile,I’m interested in going to Nana too.Have you ever seen any real photo results from Nana?

July 2, 2019

Lia_Heart said: ↑

Hi! how was consultation with nana? im interested in nana and did you secure a surgery date with hanabi with deposit or did they schedule yu after consultation?

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Hi Lia,I’m interested in going to Nana for eyes and nose too.Have you ever seen any good review from Nana?

July 2, 2019

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Heyyy I got my nose done at Nana! I did see a lot of locals every time I visited Nana. I recommend it there since the translators and consultants were really kind and smart. They explained all the procedures and precautions / after care cautions well. The consultants and my doctor (Dr Kim) recommended what is the best for my nose and health in the long term as well. I got my hump/deviation corrected and I don't get blockage / nasal irritations anymore. I'm in love with my straight nose and my tip is also slightly upturned in the way I wanted. It's been about 5 months and I'm having no prob so far. I heard View is also good, but they can be a bit pricey. Hyundai is also popular so I also went to Hyundai, but they were too busy so I ended up waiting like half an hour each before two consultations. I don't recommend Grand because they are notorious for having many death cases. Hope it helps!

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Hi Kimba,can you please share your nose photo?because I’m going to get the surgery at Nana and looking for real patient review...if you don’t mind ‘cause I trued to message you two times but still no response from you

June 29, 2019

Lia_Heart said: ↑

I see! I think I can actually stay for a month (however some clinics recommended its not enough recovery time after v-line??)
Hi Lia,I’m planning to get all surgeries at one time.I will stay in Seoul for a month so I can get the consultation at different clinics and make my own decision.Do you have any clinic for your list including Namu?

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Cheek implants

My cheekbone reduction at Faceline clinic

Is there any long term issues with cheekbone reduction?

Is there any long term issues with cheekbone reduction?

Is there any long term issues with cheekbone reduction?

Facial Contouring + Rhinoplasty (tiplasty and alarplasty) at Opera Plastic Surgery

Dr. Jeong Jinwook (hyundai,view,bk)

Is there any long term issues with cheekbone reduction?

Is there any long term issues with cheekbone reduction?

Post prices of Korean clinics here!

My PS experience at Hyundai Aesthetics

Golden View or CD Zien for Lip surgery?

Facial Contouring + Rhinoplasty (tiplasty and alarplasty) at Opera Plastic Surgery

Sagging from Cheekbone surgery? Types of Sagging? Risks? IRL examples

Anyone w experience at Gyalumhan?

Anyone w experience at Gyalumhan?

Post prices of Korean clinics here!

Gyalumhan Plastic Surgery

My research and ps experience for mini-vline/fat grafting

Gyalumhan Plastic Surgery

Rhino at nana

help Rhinoplasty - View, Dream, GNG, Nana or Grand?

help Rhinoplasty - View, Dream, GNG, Nana or Grand?

Namu plastic surgery?