Asian nose job

[numberlinh]

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numberlinhh...

I think you may be looking at the wrong places for plane tickets... there are plenty of websites that offer it cheap
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oh meowgirl... it would be so fun to join a bunch of girls and you really do have a point with the washing the hair... omg... I hadn't thought about that.. that would be DISGUSTING.. lol
you know... you might just be changing my mind...

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Ah! Wow those are pretty cheap tickets! But I was talking about going in the summer. They're like at least 1000. >.< But oh well it IS the summer. But good to know they're so much cheaper in the winter break period. Thanks!! xD

jas3n said: ↑

LOL! we'll see. hopefully yes. but the only problem is i have to schedule going to korea with uni goes. last yr i had exams till the end of november and this year is likely to be the same. so basically i'd arrive in korea at the very end (like 28 or 29th) of Nov at the earliest!

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I have the same problem too!!! Are you from the states? Most colleges that my friends go to are out by the second week of December. So anytime in October or November would be too early because those breaks are only for like two or three days at most.

 

[numberlinh]

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firstly about korean friends..i met up with 2 korean-australian old high school mates here. honestly theres nothing more fun than hanging out with a local and his/her friends. they know where to take you, they can speak to the waitress/bartender/shop assistant/taxi driver, lol and of course they're great company.
lol thats pretty much true with any international friend you might have if you;re in their country. so yeh..if you have the chance to..try to make some new friends back home. if they're korean and goin to korea when you are. even better!

and about shopping...
my korean aussie mate who was born in seoul told me they charge foreigners more than they do locals, this urban myth true or not is pretty much standard as in other asian countries. despite that..theres some good bargains here but not as cheap as say HK or Thailand (HK is cheaper for most designer stuff when sales are on, Thailand cheaper for fake stuff). i've been to 3 main shopping districts for young people (there are probably more out there) - Dongdaemun, Apgujeong, Myung Dong (not pronounced My Yoong Dong which i said first time round when i was here:S

Dongdaemun has like 3 or 4 big shopping centres (5-6 stories high) selling no-brand clothes or budding designers with pretty good quality, nice and trendy designs and goodish prices. now im no fashion guru but my sister who is really into clothes, designers and posts on forums like ours (e.g. vogue) really likes it. i think nice jackets might cost $USD 100 and a top no more than $50. this is not a place to buy clothes for those aged 35+. just not upmarket enough.
Apgujeong is nicer but also more expensive, most of the stores arent chain stores, but more boutique. A lot of them sell American stuff so you might as well buy taht back home. however some sell european and korean stuff. the look here is different to the US i think, so some of you might really like it.
A bit expensive for me tho, like $1000 jackets that are just plain wool and just nicely cut are not my thing, id rather go 2 dongdaemun for that..
Myong Dong is in between both..i didnt get so close a look at places there tho. restauarants, cafes and ur DK or starbucks are there and mostly cheaper than apgujeong.
i've heard Myong Dong has all the big fashion houses, and so does Apgujeong and Gangnam (the neighbouring suburb). Theres one or two malls in these areas similar to your Neiman Marcus in the US..called Hyundai and Galleria.
They sell chanel, LV, manolo blahnik, Prada, Burberry, chloe.. european brands which i cant remember the names of..um yeh..and all that other rubbish ush: LOL! (jking ok) anyways its pretty silly but near even next to these malls there's like the boutiques for all these designers..so yeh plenty of shopping to be done..if you have the money

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Good to know! After going to Korea for a nose job and shopping I'll be soo broke.

robinh said: ↑

Hi jas3n!

I'm new, but have been following this thread closely, cause I'm also serious about getting my nose done in Korea. Thanks for all the firsthand info!

It's look like Dreamclinic is the best one so far. I'm just curious why you didn't consider BKClinic. It was mentioned several times in this thread, and seems to be the most popular clinic for all those gorgeous k-movie stars.

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There a scary stories out there about the post-op care they give to their patients. They probably only treat the gorgeous k-movie starts the best because it would damage their reputation if they didn't.

QQGuy said: ↑

Thanksgiving? Do you mean "Chu Seok"? the korean thanksgiving day. That's around early October and the weather is cooling, non-humid. It is not too cold either, Perfect for healing. Dec will be too cold... anyway..

Hi guys and girls,

I'm new too. Previously I had did eyelid surgery. I have lived in Korea for a short period of time, thus know some koreans there. If some of you are from Singapore, I do have connections for cheap korea Air Tickets and lodging.

I'm looking to going to Seoul too for some procedures (around Oct-Nov), unfortunately/ (or fortunately) I'm not looking at Nose job, but chin/jaw job..

If you people don't mind, can i join in? I know Seoul well so travelling about should be easier.

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Lol! Looks like keropijennifer and meowgirl have another person to drag off onto the trip! xD

Ai ya..I really need this trip. I think one thing I wont like is the fact that after getting the nose job I wont be able to get into spas. All the PS say that you cant go into them. Or maybe I was misinformed (being hopeful here) and I really can go into the spas? 0.O

 

[numberlinh]

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Following the procedure description we went through some of the usual questions about recovery, post op care/visits and a few special questions i had from the consultation checklist from rhinoplasty4you.com:


recovery/post op: recover for about an hr after surgery in recovery room. visit the day after for check up, then 5-6 days after surgery for removal of stitches (less than what other clinics normally say), 2 weeks after that it looks pretty good apparently. acc to Park i can get back to normal life the day after..(maybe he was joking!?)
he said most foreign patients (like jung about 90% of his patients are korean) dont need to come back for another check up due to time constraints. but i was welcome to anytime.

anaesthetic: general anaesthetic is an option but the one recommended for me was an IV drip (light sleep) + local anaesthetic on the nose. tho maybe general as well at times. according to him periods when the operation was painful, i would be made asleep but he said i could mostly talk to him during surgery. he wasnt very clear on this and im not sure about it either as i know buggerall about anaesthesia.
Acc to him the anaesthetic is administered by HIM, but he said its 'easy and simple' to do. Lack of an anaesthetist raises one red flag with me as does his lack of a good explanation.

Supervision:/assistance there will be one nurse assisting him it seems

What does he do in case of emergency:
basically he said its a very safe procedure and they can take care of it all in his clinic. sounded like Dr Jung a bit here -a yes man. when i pressed for more details he named some hospital as one he'd take patients to and taht was about it

certified clinic?
he said its a certified clinic. but how certified i dont know.i was honestly unsure what sort of questions i should have been asking here regarding facilities?

did they have monitoring facilities in the Recovery room?
EKG and blood pressure machines were the ones i asked about. it was getting all too technical for a first time consultation. he said yes but they would be unnecessary unless i went under general A.

before and after photos:
we had a look at these during the discussion and also after i had a look at about 7 pairs of photos (b4 adn after). there were some good results i must say and one or two that didnt look that significantly different (which iv seem in almost every clinic iv been to -a few average results..so i guess it depends on the patients to an extent).
anyway on the pics almost invisible scarring. and all in all his pics looked pretty good but not fantastic. quite natural though.

the golden question price:

$3 million won!! the cheapest so far. all inclusive of painkillers, antibiotics and bandages (i asked about this too!), anaesthetic

Altogether the consultation cost 5000 won and took about 20 mins!!

OK having written this. you may think hes pretty good..and i agree with you to an extent. 7or 8/10 to the operation, price, results and surgeon all up (excluding facilities).
but now ill tell you the bad news and why i will unlikely be doing mine here:
1. lack of busyness/clientele -maybe its just thursday. maybe its just cos its the end of the day. but to me it doesnt look like a big/popular clinic -especially when you count the no. of couches in the waiting room which is quite few -suggesting its like i observed.
2. lack of anaesthetist
3. lack of clear emergency plans
4. KSAPS qualification where was it?!
5. silicon?
6. the facilities
this last point i say last as it came last in my consultation;my mum and i requested to look at the operating room and recovery room. and we were in for quite a shock!
the operating room, while quite clean and of a decent size was old. old in the sense of outdated. i didnt understand how come the clinic itself was quite new but the operating room was so old. there were mission brown cupboards (like a 70s or 80s dental clinic), an oldish operating bed, metal trolleys to the side, and a few well used stools on caster wheels. All in all it looked quite amateurish. there seemed to be nothing really that technolgically cutting edge in there. i was reminded of my primary school days when i went to the government dentists for those free check ups that school kids needed to have. it was quite a bit better than those of course, but still...not what a surgery should be like

if that wasnt what decided my mind it was the recovery room.
horrible is the word that comes to mind. korea is a developed country, but the room looked a bit like something you'd expect in a developING country. lol. it was damn small, plain, with a sink to the side, maybe a table, and a large single bed that looked..well..slept in. im serious. it had pink bedsheets and pink doona that looked ruffled like someone just got up. seriously..shouldnt the clinic clean up after patients!?
anyway that room looked pretty old -maybe slightly newer than the operating room. and it looked pretty uncomfortable. i wouldnt want to sleep there after an operation, in fact the only way id sleep in there would be if you sedated me, shoved me in there and locked the door.

there you have it then: my prognosis. i wouldnt go there. some of you more knowledgeable in these matters might be willing to take a chance..and for $3 million won its a steal. maybe this place is ok for a simple job, and maybe iv been a bit harsh. but im deciding this relative to others iv seen.
dreamclinic gets my vote until i find something better.

alright i need to get in the taxi in 1hrs time.
lol 15 mins sleep
yes i think so
good nite guys
next time i write will be in Hk or aus!

BTW: if anyone is visiting korea b4 i do next. pls visit these clinics to post up a second opinion.

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How disappointing. I was hoping it would be a good clinic. It was my first choice. Now I feel a bit uneasy. So dreamclinic is the best so far? Good to know about these things. Thanks jas3n for posting your reviews!

OH yea, I hope the other PS allow the use of Sinecch. I don't think I'd want to do the nose job without it...

 

[palmtreegal]

I am a nurse in training to be a certified registered nurse anesthetist. The red flag for me in the post above was - the surgeon does the anesthesia himself. NOT SAFE. Who is monitoring your vital signs and comfort level? If it's a nurse that's not good enough, s/he's not trained to manage the airway of a sedated patient. If the drugs should cause you to stop breathing, no one would be available to place a breathing tube or otherwise assist you. The surgeon has enough to do with the surgery. Nasal surgery is not terribly painful with the local anesthetic, but you will need sedation and possibly narcotics for pain throughout. A trained individual should be in charge of your anesthetic care. I don't know if Korea commonly uses physicians, nurse anesthetists or another kind of anesthesia provider; it doesn't matter as long as they are appropriately trained and credentialled.

I'm glad you're doing your research!

 

[numberlinh]

PalmTreeGal said: ↑

I am a nurse in training to be a certified registered nurse anesthetist. The red flag for me in the post above was - the surgeon does the anesthesia himself. NOT SAFE. Who is monitoring your vital signs and comfort level? If it's a nurse that's not good enough, s/he's not trained to manage the airway of a sedated patient. If the drugs should cause you to stop breathing, no one would be available to place a breathing tube or otherwise assist you. The surgeon has enough to do with the surgery. Nasal surgery is not terribly painful with the local anesthetic, but you will need sedation and possibly narcotics for pain throughout. A trained individual should be in charge of your anesthetic care. I don't know if Korea commonly uses physicians, nurse anesthetists or another kind of anesthesia provider; it doesn't matter as long as they are appropriately trained and credentialled.

I'm glad you're doing your research!

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ush: Thats good to know! So when you said, sedation and narcotics throughout..you mean throughout the surgery right?

I'm still wondering how many meds you'll have to take after getting the nose job.

 

[maskd2003]

oK... I'm pretty sure I will be trying to get an appointment at bkclinic in second half of Oct... If anyone wants to join, feel free; it'll be fun.

 

[keropijennifer]

I c we kinda have a problem here....that is to arrange a time when we can All go together! I dont think I can go till at least nov at the mo. So.....I think there may be several groups of us going oct/nov time.:s Anyway...i think the first thing we shd all think about is which surgeon/clinic wd be the best one for us, cause personal I aint gona go until I know for sure I have at least two good repuatable clinics to go to. U knw....fm wat Jas3n has said, it does sound like Dream clinic is a lot better than OZclinic, but.... I think 'u shd never judge a book by its cover'. Ok, Ozclinic hasnt got the lastest most sophisticated techology, but I mean, does it really make that much of a difference...i mean, its not that his equipments are really old right? It may well be that the surgeon is really good....I mean.....the only way wd know for sure who is better is if we actually get to see a client come out with their new nose! And this is the annoying part....lol,....no one lives in seoul at the mo! So if any one has been to either of these clinics or any of the good ones in seoul, PLEASE write us a message here!!!!!

 

[jez]

jas3n said: ↑

hmm..it looks like theres lots of discussion about racial reasons for ppl wanting to get their noses done and things like that . im pretty much gonna steer away from all that except for saying: im just gonna get my nose done because i dont like it, havent ever really liked it, and i dont think it fits my face. i'll concede that maybe part of why i want to get it done is because iv been brought up in a western culture with western ideals of beauty but honestly i dont care.

so..right now im going to talk about dreamclinic:
the first time i went there was last monday, basically finding it because i stumbled across the clinic when the lift opened on the wrong floor lol!.

Unlike the other clinics id been to the place appeared just average at first. The layout was its worst trait. it seemed like bad feng shui. there was some bad flourescent lighting, the entrance was a narrow passageway blocked on one side by a blank white wall, leading to a feeling that 'space' was lacking. though as the ceilings were probably twice as high as that of dr jungs it looked nowhere near as cluttered as that place. overall, the scheme was a bit spartan though clean and modern.
When i think back on it, the appearance was like that of a GPs medical centre rather than a plastic surgery clinic (GP = general practitioner -the name us aussies call a normal unspecialised doctor).

it was also quite busy like some medical centres can be. about 15 people or more were waiting in the waiting room alone (at around 6pm). the 3 receptionists were all busy too, and i felt they were also rather unwelcoming, as they let us wait at the front desk for a minute or two without any acknowlegement of us at all. they also spoke minimal english (3/10). so far first impressions of the place werent all that great. but the clinic must've been doing something right to have so many patients.

that day i had an initial meeting with an english speaking 'counselor' of the clinic. her name was Sun Kyoung Kim and her role was to basically screen patients first so patients could discuss what they wanted to get done, if it was possible or not and so they could refer me to the right specialist. i presume this meeting was also so i didnt waste the surgeons time later on.

i was referred to Dr Park, who you can see on this page:µå¸²¼ºÇü¿Ü°ú
on wednesday i went in for my consultation. wait time was about 10mins and UNLIKE other clinics, this consultation would cost W5000 (about the price of a pricier coffee...coffee aint cheap here thats for sure)..fair enough
if he did a good job

Dr Park according to the website was extremely well qualified, and as he assured me in perfectly good english (9/10 or better!!!!) he had done lots of noses -its his speciality it seems (he does 4-5 a day, and has done abt 10000 of them)! Now, this guy was probably the best surgeon i'd come across in terms of qualifications:
med degree and board certified from Seoul national university hospital which i belive is the highest ranked uni here
the hospital he is affiliated with -seoul hospital is great
hes done quite a bit of teaching: clinical prof at Seoul National University Hospital among others
he also has certifications from very good cosmetic surgery associations in korea, japan and the US!!
I saw these certificates myself and photos are in my phone. (Does anyone know how i can extract them to my comp???)
the clinic: Dream Medical Group is affiliated with Samsung Medical Center apparently. Given that samsung is one of the biggest conglomerates here, i think the medical facilities/services must be highly rated. Samsung wouldnt lend their sponsorship to a second rate clinic for PR-reasons.

Like all clinics & Doctors, Dr Park and dreamclinic do however have their faults which ill talk about later...on with my consultation first though.
Basically, the consultation started off similar to the others: 'so what would you like done to your nose?'
i said the usual: narrow, heighten adn define alar; straighten septum, reduce dorsum, columella
his solutions if i can remember correclty: 'umbrella' procedure to heighten, narrow alar (its hard to explain), osteotomy, reducing septum cartilage.. reduction of nostril width (alar base resection?) would be via open rhino if i chose to do it (thats currently the most effective method if your nose is wide). altogether ~1.5hrs.
We went through discussion of recovery and options as well with pretty much the same answers as other places -1mth b4 swelling generally subsided etc etc.
basically, the essential thing that set him apart was his eloquence in english, his less selling of his services/results and him taking the time to explain what the techniques would mean -e.g. incisions where, stiches where etc, potential scarring.
thats what i liked. him talking about the negatives where others wouldnt. whereas the other surgeons id seen before had all said the open method would leave a basically unnoticeable scar, but this guy was making no such promises. unfortunately this meant he was a bit deadpan and serious at times, not as much of a smiling character as Dr Jung or the guy i saw at Clinic 9. However, when the consultation ended, i had an excellent overall impression of the doctor that was marred by only one or two things:

-he didnt use before and after photos. during the visit he claimed he didnt have any on his computer and they were on the counselors computer. but when i saw the counselor she claimed she could not show me any. Im not sure why, misunderstanding doesnt come into it as im certain she understood what i was after b/c i repeated myself 3x...maybe she simply just couldnt be bothered :s

-the busyness of the clinic could be a bad thing. halfway through my consultation a receptionist came into the room and gave the doc the next patients file. he also does taxing surgery all the time. if the doctors are overworked, this increases chances of risks/errors for the patient.

BTW surgery here would cost me 4 million won all inclusive. with a 10% discount possible b/c my mum would be doing a skin treatment upstairs. We didnt try to bargain or anything, but it seems 10% off seems a normal discount.
Dreamclinic gets a 8.5/10 from me.
Hopefully i said everything relevant there. if theres any questions, PM me or put it on the forum.

'If Korean doctors are charging $4000, then perhaps paying more for US is worth it, unless Korean doctors do Asian noses better anyway (?)'

Wgirl99 your comment reflects what im thinking too atm. In australia, we have a couple of excellent doctors that range from AUD $5000 to $8000 max possibly. theres one who ill try to see in particular: a 'dr bryan mendelson' who is well known here because he does celebrities (aussie mainly) and [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]is President of the International Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. Im not sure if its the case in the US, but i believe a portion of the hospital fees, anaesthetist etc can be recouped via PRIVATE health insurance which most aussies have (by law sorta). I have seen a website claiming this can reduce the total fee to aruond AUD $3500 (depedning on the initial amount) this is about [/FONT]US $2,700. essentially i'd have to do the procedure back home then..
anyways You guys should see if your health insurance covers any part of the fees, hospital or otherwise. the higher the cover the better (but more expensive too).
seoul seems more expensive than i thought

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Hi,

I was wondering if you knew the email for dreamclinic since it doesnt look so clear on the website it just says dream@dreamsurgery :s

I'm also planning to get my nose done and facial contouring so would like to investigate a few clinics also.

I be going to korea end of march.

Whats peoples views so far on which clinics look the most promising?

I can probably get an intepreter if there are some korean only sites which people want to investigate. Also have a few korean friends but rather not get them involved as such.

 

[robinh]

numberlinh said: ↑

There a scary stories out there about the post-op care they give to their patients. They probably only treat the gorgeous k-movie starts the best because it would damage their reputation if they didn't.

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Hey numberlinh,

I think I read someone mentioning the same thing about BKClinic. Can you tell me where you heard this, or do you actually know somebody who had a procedure done there and experienced really bad post-op care? Dr. Kim seems to have a good reputation. He also seems to be responsive on his consultation Web site, so I could email him to see what he says about the bad rep he's getting on post-op care.

Just like keropijennifer, I'd like to identify 2 reputable clinics b4 I take the plunge to go to Korea.

 

[jas3n]

Wow..
it really looks like theres gonna be at least 5 or 6 of us going to korea now.
anyway. i havent had a look at BKclinic, but plan to next time im there; the reason why i didnt research that place was because i'd heard about the poor post op care from this forum. i am curious why that was said too.

anyway, i emailed a few clinics that i thought might speak english, found these from the ISAPS website: AT aesthetic clinic, Neoclinic (³×¿À¼ºÇü¿Ü°ú or ÄÚ¼ºÇü À̾߱â). they didnt reply.
so i guess that rules them out as speaking english. The surgeons there look to be highly rated. So..Jez if you're willing to get an interpreter i guess you could start there.

Robinh. More than anything i too would i'd love to find another one or two REPUTABLE clinics that speak english, so i can compare the options based on their merits and less on the faults.

BTW facial contouring is something that seems to only happen in korea, but seems to be pretty effective. When i went to Njelim clinic the b4 and after shots looked pretty incredible for those who did that particular op.

 

[numberlinh]

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Hey numberlinh,

I think I read someone mentioning the same thing about BKClinic. Can you tell me where you heard this, or do you actually know somebody who had a procedure done there and experienced really bad post-op care? Dr. Kim seems to have a good reputation. He also seems to be responsive on his consultation Web site, so I could email him to see what he says about the bad rep he's getting on post-op care.

Just like keropijennifer, I'd like to identify 2 reputable clinics b4 I take the plunge to go to Korea.

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I actually heard it on another forum. The girl was freaking out because he dismissed her when she started freaking out about her nose. His post-op care IS BAD. But in the end the girl had a great nose apparently. But I don't know if I would go to any doctor who would comfort his/her patient this way. I've actually already asked him about this whole "conveyor belt" procedure (one patient after another) and he said something along the lines of "I'm only one man and business is really booming so I'm usually very busy. I do my best to help my patients" something like that. You could probably find my question on his board somewhere, but its probably swamped by now. xD

Yea I'd like to have at least two options before going to Korea too. So Dream clinics seems to have gotten the best reviews...but they don't seem to have qualifications in rhinoplasty??? Maybe I didnt clearly enough. Their English website is pretty plain, no board, and no pictures.

 

[robinh]

Hey everyone,

I found this other forum of people from Singapore who are discussing the same topic.

Singapore Expats Forum - View topic - Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

A couple of the members, myNose and hatemynose, actually had nose surgery at BK clinic. They seem to both be happy about the results, but confirmed that the post-op care isn't great. Dr. Kim is just too busy to spend any time with his patients, but both these members still highly recommend BK.

In that forum, myNose said that her Korean friends who had very nice nose jobs, recommended 2 clinics: BK clinic and Jelim http://www.jelimps.com/ . Jelim's English Web site has hardly any info and no pictures! Has anyone heard anything about Jelim? Maybe they could be the 2nd option we're all looking for.

 

[robinh]

SORRY for the multiple posts! Don't know what happened, but I can't seem to delete them.
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Hey everyone,

I found this other forum of people from Singapore who are discussing the same topic.

Singapore Expats Forum - View topic - Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

A couple of the members, myNose and hatemynose, actually had nose surgery at BK clinic. They seem to both be happy about the results, but confirmed that the post-op care isn't great. Dr. Kim is just too busy to spend any time with his patients, but both these members still highly recommend BK.

In that forum, myNose said that her Korean friends who had very nice nose jobs, recommended 2 clinics: BK clinic and Jelim http://www.jelimps.com/ . Jelim's English Web site has hardly any info and no pictures! Has anyone heard anything about Jelim? Maybe they could be the 2nd option we're all looking for.

 

[robinh]

Hey everyone,

I found this other forum of people from Singapore who are discussing the same topic.

Singapore Expats Forum - View topic - Plastic and cosmetic surgery abroad

A couple of the members, myNose and hatemynose, actually had nose surgery at BK clinic. They seem to both be happy about the results, but confirmed that the post-op care isn't great. Dr. Kim is just too busy to spend any time with his patients, but both these members still highly recommend BK.

In that forum, myNose said that her Korean friends who had very nice nose jobs, recommended 2 clinics: BK clinic and Jelim http://www.jelimps.com/ . Jelim's English Web site has hardly any info and no pictures! Has anyone heard anything about Jelim? Maybe they could be the 2nd option we're all looking for.

 

[palmtreegal]

numberlinh said: ↑

ush: Thats good to know! So when you said, sedation and narcotics throughout..you mean throughout the surgery right?

I'm still wondering how many meds you'll have to take after getting the nose job.

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Yes, sedation and narcotics for the procedure. General anesthesia (totally asleep, breathing tube) is also an option, but probably not used so much because it can't be done without an anesthesia provider and that costs more.

Usually they inject quite a bit of local anesthetic into the nose so the immediate post-op pain isn't too bad. Within 4-8 hours or so that will wear off and you will be pretty sore, and probably have a headache. That's when you'll need Vicodin, Percocet or whatever pain medication the surgeon has prescribed. I don't know how long the pain continues after surgery since I don't see my patients again after they leave the recovery room. I would guess 3 days to a week of needing pain pills. But check with the doc, it's really not my area of expertise.

Anyone who does do this, I'd be very interested in hearing about your anesthesia experience abroad. I'm curious about different practices elsewhere compared to what I'm being taught here in the US.