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  1. @breadtard An oral maxillofacial surgeon
  2. Airbnb is a common alternative to hotels, but here are some Airbnb selection tips: Try to pick ones near the clinic area (Gangnam Station, Yeoksam Station, Non-hyeon Station, Sinsa Station). Picking places around here will generally put you in 8 to 15 commute from most clinics located in the Gangnam area (depends on traffic) Try to pick places that have an elevator or are only 2 or 3 floors max stair walk if there is no elevator. If you stay in a hotel or airbnb make sure you prepare it for your recovery. Move things that you might trip on, cover up sharp corners, buy plastic covers if you think you may leak from your wound site, make sure you get plenty of pillows, so you can sleep on a 45 degree angle. You could also try a homestay with a Korean family, and let them know if you are coming for surgery. Note of Caution About Hosts Be cautious when telling a host you are coming for surgery. Although we'd like to believe in the kindness of strangers, if they suddenly become invested in your surgery details and volunteering their time to assist you, then they may actually be brokering your surgery without your knowledge. You should not disclose the names of the clinic you plan to visit until you have confirmed your final prices face to face, and have decided upon which clinic will do the surgery. If they ask clinic details before that time, then give them a random clinic name that you don't actually plan to visit. You can tell them the real clinic name after everything has been confirmed and decided upon, since it may be relevant for them to know for emergency contact purposes after your surgery. Some red flags that a host may be acting as a covert broker is if they start volunteering services that are essentially done by medical tour agencies such as planing and arranging your clinic schedule, soliciting clinic recommendations, handling your personal information with clinics, escorting you to the clinic and interpreting for you. If you want all these things then you should just simply work with an actual medical tour agency from the get go, since they'll be upfront about these services and what their role and responsibilities are.
  3. If you are below 18, you need parental consent. But you should check with a qualified doctor to see if you have achieved full adult development of your mandible or jaw.
  4. That's a decent set to start with since both are well known to perform lip surgeries. MVP though has a tendency to emphasize its reconstructive and cleft lip skills, while Deesse tends to emphasize its cosmetic lip surgery skills. That's not to say that MVP can't do purely aesthetic enhancements, nor that Deesse can't do cleft surgeries. Some other places that come up for lip surgery are Golden View, Hyundai Aesthetics, and HB Plastic Surgery. The latter two (Hyundai and HB), from their surgeon bios and some old blog mentions, used to work at Deesse, so I imagine, they also trained under their main lip surgeon and may be well practiced also. It would be best to see which one suits your preferences when you reach out.
  5. Welcome to Beauty Hacker, and we all hope to help each other get good information. I've come across some information on Dr. Wittenberg he seems qualified and competent to perform a genioplasty. In terms of being Asian vs Caucasian, a surgeon like Wittenberg would have a range of diverse patients by practicing in Vancouver, so would New York's Jamali. In terms of proportions, any qualified surgeon with an eye for facial aesthetics will know the right proportions for a genioplasty, which is one of the more straight forward facial contouring procedures. There are a lot of benefits to getting treatment at home or closer to home instead of going abroad. The standards of care and legal systems afforded to you by North America will be more easy to navigate. Let's hope you never have to do this, but would you rather sue a Canadian / US surgeon or a Korean surgeon? I would say its best to go with your guy, but when it comes to legitimacy of reviews you have to use your discretion, even on RealSelf. Korean sales and marketing staff are notorious for posting fake reviews on RealSelf and purse forum, the latter was once the home to many of us experienced surgery veterans. But now purse forum is an untrustworthy source for plastic surgery information. And that's why many of us came together to make a forum that blocks Korean registrations entirely (Beauty Hacker). Usually smaller maxillofacial clinics such as Dr Lee (Face Dental) and Dr Yoon (EverM) have authentic reviews from real people, they are not really the type of clinics who play these sort of review marketing games, but with that said, you might have to be weary of clinics who might also do smear campaigns against smaller and authentically reviewed clinics out of jealously. But don't worry, none of that mess will happen here.
  6. This clinic has been starting to get mentioned frequently, and like a few other clinics, it could likely be by design and not organic or natural rise like Everm or TFD. Meaning people are getting incentivized or creative clinic marketing staff are increasing the mentions of the clinic artificially on other forums.
  7. Canthopexy vs Canthoplasty Sometimes the terms Canthopexy and Canthoplasty get used interchangeably. Technically these are two different procedures. These two basically work on the outer corner of the eye (lateral canthal tendon / lateral commissure/canthus). Canthopexy is repositioning the tendon without cutting it. Canthoplasty is cutting the tendon. Both techniques can be done in combination, which some surgeons for simplicity sake will then just call a canthoplasty. These procedures have been done for years to correct malposition of the eyelid corner. To create wider and brighter eyes, it's usually correcting "Mulan" eyes, where the outter corner slants higher than the inner corner, so the outer corner needs to be brought down (canthopexy) and moved out (canthoplasty). Canthoplasty = makes eyes appear longer. Canthopexy = corrects slant Cantoplasty + Canthopexy = improves length + slant and has synergy of making eyes look bigger when combined together. This photo shows how positioning the outer corner, out and down creates larger or brighter eyes. Risks: All surgeries carry risks, for canthoplasty and canthopexy common complications include deformity of the outer corner (lateral commissure/canthus), recurrence (going back to how it was before), mucosal exposure (exposing too much of the pink tissue in your eye), and ectropion (the inside of your lower eyelid sagging and skin rolling out exposing too much pink soft tissue). Sources: Cosmetic Lateral Canthoplasty: Lateral Canthoplasty to Lengthen the Lateral Canthal Angle and Correct the Outer Tail of the Eye Cosmetic Lateral Canthoplasty: Preserving the Lateral Canthal Angle
  8. Hi Rey, some people in the Eyes and Nose group have had lipo. People usually cover general topics in there too.
  9. Esther you are having analysis paralysis. Right now you're at 10 picks, and you should really think about getting this down to 3 to 5 max for face to face consults. Having 10 face to face consults is too much. It will become confusing and all the recommendations, prices, schedules and doctors will become a blur. Based on this list, the ones you have responses from so far are essentially 5, I took out DAPS because it did not supply a quote. Eyelid surgery is one the more straight forward surgeries in Korea, so the clinics below should be competent in this procedure, especially from my own knowledge and experience. Ruby Pop Gylumhan Marble Top Face Your next step now is to go out into the field and consult and begin the process of elimination. Write down what are the most important factors for you and at the face to face consultation start to narrow down: Your goals: Wider and brighter (dolly) eyes and appearance Under eye and dark circle / bag correction Assess the clinic / doctor Recommendation & method Doctors understanding of your goal & feasibility Staff & overall vibes (listen to your gut) Pricing and schedule
  10. @ohwon01 Thanks for sharing these thoughts. I think a lot of people have been in this boat in terms of being satisfied with their results and contemplating a revision or just learning to accept their results, even if they felt it fell below their expectations. Sometimes we are our own worst critics, and can hyper focus on our perceived flaws. I'm reminded of that Dove "Real Beauty" commercial where an ex-law enforcement sketch artist makes two sketches of women without seeing them. He only listens to how they are described by the women themselves, and then by a random stranger who had casual chat with them. The random stranger gave a more accurate portrayal, and the women describing themselves were more critical on their perceived flaws, and less flattering in the details. Inside-Out vs Outside-In It seems like your eyes are affecting the quality of your life, and if it's persistent and keeps making you feel self-conscious. Then you're on the right path by trying to make a reasonable inside-out attempt to alleviate an emotional complex about a physical flaw through inner-work. Things like self-dialog, journaling and even speaking with trusted advisors, groups and counselors will help. But after that, if you feel the approach should be surgical, or correcting the issue from outside-in (alleviate an emotional complex caused by a physical flaw through surgery) then it would be best to to understand the feasibility of those options. Anxiety comes from fear of the unknown, so you have to make the unknown known as much as possible, and that comes from speaking to revision experts. Revision Anxiety Contemplating revision can be nerve wracking since you don't want it to be worse, and it's the idea of taking another risk. But it's best to understand your options so you can either eliminate surgery, or have plausible reasons to explore it as option. You will only get this from having a good consultations with experienced surgeons. Plastic surgery is as much mental as it is physical, so if you decide to have revision. You have to put yourself in a good headspace and make well thought out plans, and be optimistic. This is going to sound contradictory to being optimistic, but one thought exercise I recommend is something called "Negative Visualization." It is a technique philosophers would use to make them appreciate and enjoy life. Imagine a worst case scenario for your eyes now. Imagine if your first surgery damaged their function, made them uneven, or worse off then they are now. Imagine how you would feel, and how you would still be OK and survive this. Also imagine if you had revision and it turned out worse. And how you could still be OK and survive. This exercise will help you to be appreciative what you have now, and might not want to have surgery, or if you do can show you that you will still be OK if things don't work out. Be gentle with yourself, and know you're not alone in having these thoughts and its OK to have, but important to manage them or have a plan to address their concern. Dove Real Beauty: The one on left is women describing themselves, the image on the right is a stranger describing them to the sketch artist.
  11. @zippuli Welcome to Beauty Hacker. Two weeks should be enough time to do to both the skin treatments and lower blepharoplasty. In terms of order of operations it might be advantageous to go to a clinic that has both plastic surgery and a dermatology department. Deciding which do do first may be best to ask the respective clinics's doctor or consultant, but people have done both skin treatment and facial surgery in the past in one trip.
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