denyagan

thank you for your nice comment , yes, I am feeling better. It looks much better. I am still somewhat swollen, but, god, the difference is HUGE. Thank you again

 

Dr Eric Payne from Houston. He is a REAL craniofacial surgeon and amazing. I saw a lot of patients in real life in his office and they looked amazing. I am so thankful I met him.

 

Excuse yourself. Check my post history. I have helped people to avoid my mistake. I have clearly stated where I had surgery. I have been contacted privately by dozens of individuals. How dare you. How dare you tell me I am the selfish one, seriously! Wow! I do not seek sympathy from strangers, I am here to raise awareness. I am here to hope people don't make my mistake. I can speak with AUTHORITY here, ok? Because you have no idea how many people I have seen and how many docs I have interviewed. I know what I am talking about.

I said the name of the clinic in Korea many, many, many times, but, what I find disconcerting is that the other person didn't even bother to compliment me or express any genuine feelings, all she was concerned about was that she didn't make the same mistake. HOW DARE YOU! HOW DARE YOU tell me that I am the selfish one when I spent hours replying to people. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

 

You seem very selfish, actually. I shared a long post, a painful experience, I put the before and after images and instead of focusing on that or showing your gratitude, all you cared is about yourself so you can avoid the clinic that botched me? Seriously?

 

You mean the surgeon who botched me or the surgeon who fixed me? Let's put it this way. I would never, ever, ever go to Korea for surgery anymore. Plus, I work with Japanese, Chinese, Koreans (in a different field) and Koreans are the worst. They do not understand the limitations they have. I also have repeatedly shared the surgeon's name

 

Some of you might remember me. I had zygoma reduction in a very prominent and reputable surgery in Korea. The surgeon in Korea left me with floating bones that shifted downards and everything sagged. This surgery in Korea literally aged me 15 years. After all this nightmare, I had revision in the US. I am attaching before and after images of my CAT scan. Hopefully, other people in my situation will feel more hopeful about a resolution.

I am sorry, but I will NEVER go to Korea for surgery. In these years, I have talked to literally hundreds of patients who had surgery and I also consulted dozens of surgeons in the US and in Korea. Korean doctors are just not as meticulous as US surgeons. Of course, there are bad surgeons in the US too, I know that, but, the Korean doctors just don't go through the same intensive training American doctors go through. Not to mention all these clinic in Korea show amazing before and after pictures, but they are photoshopped. I met in real life some people and in real life they look NOTHING like the before and after picture.s

 

hello, as you probably remember, I was butchered in Korea by OZ clinic. He didn’t plate my zygomas and they shifted down and this aged me 15 years. I need a revision now. The zygomas need to be rotated up and plated tightly. My question is how do they avoid that the zygoma fall down again even using plates and screws? The masseter muscles are very strong and yawning or chewing will pull down the zygomatic arches, so, how do you avoid that?

 

I hope so too. It has been a nightmare.

 

I liked her. She was very honest and she did NOT push me to have unnecessary procedures. She has had a lot of experience with patients having surgery in Korea and ending up with sagging skin, looking much older than what they are, and bone complications. That is how I found her, actually. I am in touch with other patients who were disfigured in Korea and ended up with her. I personally would never go to Korea again. In these years I researched so much, and I simply don't trust Korean doctors. They use marketing strategies, highly photoshopped pictures and they do NOT go through the intensive training that a US doctor has to go through. Some of you might hate me for saying this and I have received a lot of private messages saying that Korean surgeons are the best, but, that is not true. I have been in touch with several disfigured patients who have gone to VERY good Korean doctors. Also, remember that the pictures they use on their websites are LIES. Nothing more than LIES. If you see those people in real life, they look completely different.

Anyway, regarding Dr. Lee, she asked me a lot of questions and she said I have two problems. One problem is the malposition, non-unions of the bones (I am reattaching the images to refresh your memory). She was very surprised that the doctor didn't use plates. Dr. Charles Lee said that even when you use plates, there is a high chance they fail, now, imagine not using plates. The other problem is a lot of sagging and extra skin. I stupidly thought that I needed a minilift, but, she said I need a full-face lift. Can you ****ing believe it? I can't put into words how angry I am at that bastard who ruined my face and my youth. I seriously wish him an agonizing death. You know why? Because I asked him repeatedly about sagging skin, and he guaranteed there was not going to be any sagging skin. I look 15 years older than my age. All of the ligaments, muscles, periosteoum in my skin have been permanently damaged. So, I will need a full face lift. I am still going to see other craniofacial surgeons before making a decision. Be very careful with these Korean doctors. I cry every day, I do not use make up anymore and I have become a recluse for how disfigured and botched my face is.

Wishing you all the best.

 

why did they seem iffy?

 

I am going to send you a direct message. Yes, I have been at Mayo Clinic, they told me to leave it alone. They take cases like burned victims, face transplants, but, I guess this is too small for them.

 

thank you, I am sorry if I misinterpreted your previous post where you told me to seek mental health. I have already, and it didn't work. I hope I can fix this soon. Anyway, I am not underweight, I promise you.

 

I have had extensive psychotherapy with all kinds of modalities. I have gone to therapists, psychiatrists, I have done cognitive behavioral therapy, I have done every imaginable thing. Useless. It's pretty easy for you to sit there and call me crazy and think I need a psychiatrist, when I have already gone to several, with no benefit. I wonder how you would feel if you were disfigured as I am. I do not need any other therapist, I need a craniofacial surgeon who can fix me. Also, I am not underweight, I am actually overweight as a result of this. I have also consulted make up artists, there is no way make up can reposition the sagging tissues. I have tried EVERYTHING. All I need is to fix this and move on.

 

I posted days ago asking about Charles Lee. I received a few responses. Thank you very much. I did end up consulting Dr. Charles Lee, but, he was very honest telling me that this is not a case he would do. I appreciated that.

Now, the next surgeon I want to consult is Dr. Kimberly Lee from Beverly Hills. On her website, she talks about correcting facial fractures, which is what I need, but, she doesn't have before and after pictures. Anybody on this forum has had experience with her? Sorry if I asked this again, but, in my previous thread, I was asking about both and people responded about Charles Lee. Now that Charles Lee is no longer an option, I want to see if this female doctor can help me. I would hope that women have more empathy and are more detail-oriented?

I am also posting a picture here to better illustrate my issues. In addition to the bones that fell done and have non-union, the whole face is disfigured.

I circled in RED where the apples of the cheeks descended. I circled in BLUE where the apples of the cheeks are supposed to be. Remember that it looks much worse in real life and my face has lost all of its anatomical contours and even expressions. This descent aged me at least 15 years. This was caused by a) the bones that keep descending because they were never plated b) bone resorption c) the ligaments of the face and the periosteoum which are like the "glue" or the scaffolding that keep the face together, were amputated by that doctor.

 

yes, the first step is to reposition the bones anatomically and have them fuse together. I will most likely need bone grafts harvested from the hip. After that, I will need some tissue reconstruction. That individual who did the surgery amputated the facial ligaments, muscles, periosteum that keep the face together. My god, I am so sad. Remember that I look 100 worse in real life.

 

I wrote another thread and i included my picture and specified the clinic

 

thank you, but I just want to die. Years and years of nightmare. Disfigured. Nobody wants me anymore. I can't even go to the hairstylist because looking at my deformed face is painful

 

no comments are necessary. These images speak for themselves. The ligaments and periosteum were severed and everything sagged. You need to understand that the scaffolding of the face was destroyed. It is really, really hard to show the damage in picture. You need to see me in real life. I look AT LEAST 15 years older than what I am. I don’t know how much you can tell from the pictures. Suffice it to say that I have bone resorption, severe descent of the face, huge bone gaps, displacement of the bones and many, many other problems. Even my eyes are drooping. I have ptosis and scleral show as a result of the facial sagging. You do not have to take my word for it: look at the pictures. Look at the cat scan images. My life is ruined. I will need bone grafts harvested from
My hip and several surgeries to fix the disaster. I hope I die in my sleep but I hope I can save other people from this nightmare. I will never look pretty or normal again. Can you see the sagging? Can you see the shadows, can you see the destruction of the anatomical contour? I look always dirty because I have shadows, disfigurement, in my face.Imagine it looks 100 times worse in real life, in 3d. Be careful with these Korean clinics. They use fake before and after pictures

 

one girl said that we all age, and that is true, but this is much more severe than simple aging, because the ligaments, tendons, facial muscles were severed by that bastard. This is not simply aging. It is waaaay worse. This is literally a deformity. I tried to take several pictures to show, but, you can't really appreciate in pictures, you need to see me in real life, there are all sorts of shadows, disfigurements, dislocations in my face. It's absolutely horrible.

 

I want to thank everybody who has shown support to me. It means the world to me. I am 24 and I look 41, at least. I am not exaggerating. When people hear my age they are shocked. I get comments from anybody asking me what happened to my face and why it looks so weird. Yes, the fact that insurance will pay for the surgeries is fantastic, but, I need to find a doctor in the US> I can't believe craniofacial surgeons are able to reconstruct faces from people who were disfigured by accidents and are not able to help me. As for the name of the clinic, you can contact me privately and I will gladly tell. The cat scans prove the damage that was done to me.

 

Sassygirl, thank you so much for your nice words, it means a lot to me. I actually consulted Charles Lee and he said he can't take my case. He was very honest. Too difficult for him. He said any craniofacial surgeon who does facial reconstruction for traumas would be able to take this case. The problem is that my case is too big for typical plastic surgeons but too small for craniofacial surgeons who will operate only if your face is missing due to cancer or accident. In any case, I appreciate your words and I would give anything to trade with your friend who saw no difference. Better to see no difference than ending up botched like me.

 

Thank you. Yes, physically I am healthy but the insurance can only be used in the US, even a plastic surgeon from the US. I want to fix this as soon as possible.

 

I cannot find words to describe how crippled, devastated, depressed I am. I curse the day I walked into that Korean Clinic. I was a pretty girl, I just felt my cheekbones were wide, but I could still cover them with my hair and I was pretty nonetheless. Now, I look 15 years older. My whole face is disfigured. I curse that unscrupulous surgeon. I did my research and consulted so many clinics and he was the one who seemed the most knowledgeable and was speaking good English and answering my e-mails personally. I was put off by the other clinics who had staff responding to my e-mail inquiries and their responses were irrelevant. Also, the surgeon I ended up choosing told me he has been doing this for decades and has never had a complication.

I cry every single day. I haven't dated, gone to a hair salon since my disfiguring surgery. I cannot put into words how horrible I look, and much much much older because that bastard severed all of the facial ligaments and tissues and everything collapsed. A simple face lift won't even do anything. I had to go through bankruptcy as a result of this because I lost my job, I couldn't pay my bills and I had to consult several surgeons.

The good news is that my health insurance would cover 100% of corrective surgery to fix the malpositioned fractures. I would need hip bone grafts to close the huge gaps that that bastard created. This is a nightmare.

So, the other reason I wanted to stay in the US is because the insurance is going to pay. But, you people told me that in Korea they are experts, so, I contacted Korean clinics and they say they can do the operation, but they want lots of money. How do I know they are not lying and they are not as bad as my original surgeon? My original surgeon has a very famous clinic and yet every single craniofacial surgeon who has seen me is shocked. They say "why didn't even use plates?"Should I just kill myself? I know there are people with deformities, but, I am angry because I brought this on myself. Also, the problem with Korean clinics is that their pictures are fake, so, it's hard to gauge if one is really good or not. I am attaching again the cat scan image to remind people of what can go wrong. Look how huge the bone gaps are.

 

I found his website which is very informative and contemplates a lot of cases similar to mine. It looks good on paper, but, who has had real experiences with him?

Thanks

http://eng.plasticsurgerybeijing.com/zygomarepair.htm

 

please send me private message and please tell me also which doctor were you recommending? I have received so many messages and so many doctors' names that I am confused.