hj88 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 This sounds to me basically like dermal grafting. They harvest collagen behind your ear, then break up the scar tissue in your acne scar with a long needle before inserting the harvested collagen into the scar pit and put a tiny stitch in the graft. There are dermatologists that do this in Australia and the US (that I know of, I'm sure there are others though). I had this done many years ago to great effect. Costs nowhere near $7000!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlusio Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hj88 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I just looked up the study you referred to. It seems to be targeting the same result as dermal grafting - that is, improving moderate to severe acne scars using your own cells. Given the results of dermal grafting are so good it seems strange to pay $7000 for this procedure (that's still in the trial phase) when you can have dermal grafts done for a few hundred dollars a cheek.. Eh to each his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlusio Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Different although both are autologous procedures. You read up the Weiss 2007 study? It's not a free public access paper. The procedure is actually FDA approved. Could you link me to any study regarding skin/dermal grafting with regards to acne scarring, I can't find any in the medical literature. There are many links to acne.org though, procedure wise cheaper but higher complications due to the need to make an incision and also risk of getting epidermal cysts. The fibroblast procedure cost so much because they have to multiply your cells for 8-10 weeks in a lab under a sterile environment and amount to 10-20million cells per ml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hj88 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 I doubt you'll find any papers on dermal grafting for acne scarring. I got the treatment from the doctor who pioneered it and is writing the seminal paper on it. That's not to say other doctors don't practice dermal grafting though. There are potential complications to any procedure, which is why it's so important to go to someone who specialises in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnoade Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Wow! U went with your own translator and they still charge you so much?? Thats daylight robbery!! The fraxel laser i intro my friend to was only 495,000krw for 3 sessions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinology Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I received a lot of pms for the name of my skin clinic after my post here. Sorry if I did not reply to you but my doctor is kinda picky too, he may sometimes not reply to patients he does not want to treat. I went to him again this year for fillers and it hurts like a b!tch although numbing cream was used. He's busy as usual but he didnt make me feel rushed during consultation, he made sure to explain properly what he's going to do and took time off to ask how am I etc. That's why I trust him completely as I see him more as a friend than doctor. He's a one-man show although he has a lot of nurses helping him, that‘s why he cares more about quality than quantity. There are too many clinics which started out good but after becoming popular, they started to hire more people and expand too fast. Many will sponsor popular bloggers in the bloggers' countries and though the bloggers claimed they are not paid for the post, if someone gives you something for free, wont you feel obliged to at least say something nice about it? It's human nature and I don't blame them which is why I take what they said with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlusio Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The fillers hurt a lot for me too, more than the laser. The skin has a lot of pain receptors and distending them by injecting anything causes a tremendous amount of pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahrieru Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Hi everyone, I thought I'd share my first experience at the dermatologist in Korea with you. I went to ask a bit about acne and acne scarring treatments. I live in a smaller town, so the the clinic I went to is part of a chain across Korea (Oracle), the dermatologist didn't speak much English (mostly just scientific terms). I've been breaking out slightly (not as bad as when I first arrived though, I'm pretty sure it's just some wild after period hormones) so I decided to visit the dermatologist with both my acne concerns and other questions about various procedures for acne scarring. For the acne, I was recommended what I think was scaling (basically extractions and a peel). I declined and just went for the extractions as a baby step since my breakout it pretty small, and everything is currently at a head (assuming nothing new pops up). The reasons I chose to just do the extractions was because I didn't know what type of peel they were using, and originally thought it was TCA since we switched from talking about scarring treatment to acne treatment. (I'm pretty sure it isn't TCA used for scaling, as he specifically said TCA was for scarring, and just used "peel" to describe the scaling). He also said scaling is good for hyperpigmentation. The extractions were quick, and fairly painless, the worst being a couple of blackheads extracted from my nose. What was interesting was that for my actual pimples, they used a needle syringe (they asked if I was okay with this first). So basically, they suck all the pus out. Again, it was painless, just a slight twinge where they insert the needle. This cost 22,000 won (about $20 usd). The full scaling is 77,000 won, and I'll probably get that next month when my hormones act up, just to experience it. For acne scarring, surprisingly I wasn't recommended fraxel. This might be because the majority of my scarring is pretty shallow. The dermatologist told me I'd need to do it many times, and it'd be expensive (about 100-200k won). Instead, I was recommended TCA peels for the individual scars (the dermatologist recommended this specifically for larger scars like the one from chickenpox I have, or icepick scars from acne). It would be faster and cheaper. I thought I'd mention all this as I know some of you buy peels from MUAC, and thought, hey, maybe you'd be interested. That, and because we don't generally think of Korean skincare as being heavy on acids, but it seems like they do use them often in dermatologist's procedure (and maybe that's how the stars have flawless skin?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prepare123 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The TCA peels for individual scars sounds interesting. Are you going to get it done? Please keep us updated. Thanks for mentioning this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahrieru Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am planning on it, as I've read about good results on an acne board (although a lot of them decided to do it themselves rather than going to the dermatologist). The TCA is best of ice pick scars, and boxcar scars I think. So that's also something to take into consideration when asking your dermatologist about it. I'm trying to visit another dermatologist in Daejeon, but that plan might fall through and I might just go with the TCA. I'll definitely keep you updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantz Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hey, Has anybody had an experience for Fat Grafting at a skin clinic? I know that Renewme clinic does it and I suppose other skin clinics as well, but is it better to get it done at a skin clinic or at a plstic surgery clinic? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachies Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Hi Skinology, Thanks for sharing your experiences! I've been researching for a few mths to find a reasonably priced and trustworthy clinic for my hyperpigmentation. I really like what you mentioned about your doctor! Could you pm me the clinic and doctor's name please? Shall try my luck and hopefully he's willing to treat me..[email protected] Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachies Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Hi Skinology,* Thanks for sharing your experiences! I've been researching for a few mths to find a reasonably priced and trustworthy clinic for my hyperpigmentation. I really like what you mentioned about your doctor! Could you pm me the clinic and doctor's name please? Shall try my luck and hopefully he's willing to treat me.. [email protected] Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erichyung Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hi everyone, I am in seoul now but i can't seem to find a clinic that removes body scars (from chickenpox, many) in an affordable and fast manner. Could someone please please point me to a good clinic? Only will be here for one more month. Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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