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I had a slight gummy smile before. That was remedied completely with this surgery. My smile is MORE attractive after double jaw. I did not sacrifice my smile. Yes, the surgery for me was worth it.

 

Yes, upper jaw was shortened, which balanced my mid face. I have no gummy smile whatsoever. My smile is actually far more attractive than it was before.

 

I have written reviews about them, even recently. Perhaps searching the forum you will find more reviews.

 

I have been a member of PF for several years, but I have not been active on this site as I have moved on for the most part. My old posts are still here, so please feel free to read them. My screen name is blasian because I am both black and asian (japanese). I look mainly black with asian features so addressing my facial flaws with a doctor familiar with asian features seemed appropriate to me. Please do not message questioning me about my background-"what percentage asian are you", comments are uncool and honestly do not matter.

I am married now, and working in my career, and do not check here often. I am also no longer on Kakao. I would also like to note that some forum members can be rude and at some point, it no longer seemed worth it to argue with people or attempt to prove I wasn't a promoter. The fighting on this forum grew to be excessive at some point. I hope that this forum will continue to be a resource for those looking to improve their appearance as the surgery I had was a positive life-altering experience that set me on a journey that helped me feel confident. I also sought out therapy (old issues) and began taking better care of myself. Not saying surgery fixed my issues, but I felt better about myself which resulted in seeking improvements in other areas that I was too afraid to do before when I felt ugly.

I wanted to provide an update on my full surgery journey, for those that may be looking for an improvement in their appearance and have tried everything else.

In July 2015, I traveled to South Korea to correct what I saw as an elongated face, harsh profile, and protrusion. I thought I had a masculine appearance somehow. I just felt that I did not look look or feel attractive. I sent my photos out to a number of surgery clinics: Girin, ID, The Face Dental, EverM, Regen, Wonjin and Cinderella, just to name a few. I really liked the interactions I had with Dr. Lee at TFD. All the clinics said I had an elongated face, protrusion, an overgrown jaw and strong zygomas. I booked initial consultations with EverM and TFD because they were dental clinics. I booked my travel to South Korea. Stayed in an Airbnb nearby.

I had a terrible consultation with EverM. The Dr. seemed rushed, cold and pressed for time. He mentioned he could not do a vline (low nerves), but he could do double jaw and zygoma reduction. I was disappointed. I did not completely want a zygoma reduction and in hindsight, glad I did not do it. I really wanted vline to address my jawline. The translator asked if I was planning to consult with other clinics and when I mentioned TFD, she badmouthed them. I found that completely unprofessional, so given that and the sense of dread I was feeling, I went to TFD.
I was immediately sold. I was treated well, given a thorough overview of what Dr. Lee planned to do, and was quoted 10 million won for: v-line, t-chin and double jaw. He did not think zygoma reduction was totally necessary, so I did not request it, since I was ok with my cheekbones. I paid for surgery, and booked the procedures.
Recovery for these procedures were long and hard. My face burned all night and the drooling was excessive. I could not sleep, but I watched anime and Korean tv shows. I could not chew for a while or open my mouth fully, so I ate porridge, soup and mashed potatoes. My face was round like a balloon for weeks. I did think immediately after surgery my face was improved. The protrusion was gone, moving my jaw just a few millimeters made me look younger and my face looked more balanced. I looked like a little chipmunk. The swelling gradually dissipated, but it took months (6 or 7). At first I was thinking I needed a revision, but what I really needed was to give it time. You have to be patient with this surgery.

I have not been back to South Korea since 2015. I said hi to Dr. Lee a few months ago via email. He is still pleasant to speak to.

Surgery since TFD

1. Chin liposuction with thermitight in the US. I removed the fat pad that formed and tightened up skin after the inevitable sagging occured after vline and genioplasty. Dr. Lee was honest and said this was going to be a likely outcome. I was able to find a doctor in my city to do this for 3,500. The results look good and I am happy with it.

2. Lip lift. After double jaw, my lips looked smaller and the philtrum longer as my bone structure was altered. A lip lift helped restore a bit of what was lost. I will occassionally use fillers, a lip lift helped, but I ended up revising this as the work was marginal. It was went Dr. Rodriguez in Maryland and I do not recommend him. I was left with a very visible scar that never truly healed, and I needed steroid injections to flatten it. The lip lift began dropping back into its original position almost as soon as the swelling dissipated. My concerns were brushed off and the doctor was agitated when I was unhappy. I decided to revise this elsewhere and not contact this doctor again.

3. Rhinoplasty with rib graft, lip lift revision and scar revision. I had a previous rhinoplasty in Mexico that looked worse over time and unsure if double jaw exaggerated an already subpar nose. My nose got wider, and deviated. It had no definition over time, was short, with an upturned tip. The prior lip lift was not the best and left a very visible, ugly scar that went all the way around the base of my nose and columella. I went to see Dr. John Layke in Beverly Hills, CA and I am pleased so far. He built up my nose with rib cartilage, adding a tall, high bridge, corrected my breathing issues, and refined the tip. The handiwork on the lip lift and scar revision are hands down fantastic. The surgical lines are thin and small. It's obvious he took his time during surgery. I had minimal facial swelling after surgery, zero bruising and no pain. My rib was just a little sore. I paid $23,000 for what I see as a natural result. It does not look like surgery. I had consulted with clinics in Korea for rib rhinoplasty before deciding on Dr. Layke, and was was surprised to see VIP was charging similar prices, and I could not seem to get an understanding of the doctor's aesthetic as it seemed from the reviews he was not consisistently addressing patient's concerns. So, I opted to spend the same money and do it here in the US, where I can take a short plane ride home, and communicate exactly what I wanted.

This is where my facial plastic surgery ends. I am at a point where I am happy with how I look and I feel attractive. After 5 years, I still recommend TFD Clinic. If you have double jaw, please give your results time.

I've attached my before and after x-rays as Dr. Lee shortened my face a great deal. The pins are still there. I kinda dislike having my face out there for the world so I do not plan to post any other photos besides these. In the selfies, the first photo is the after, the second is before. I blurred out my mouth, but I had a prominent protrusion and the mid face was flatter and longer. These photos do not represent the work that I have done since TFD: rhinoplasty, lip lift and chin liposuction. I do not plan to share those here. I am truly hoping that I helped someone out there.

 

I did double jaw and vline in 2015 and it literally took 6 months for the swelling to go down. When I look back at old photos, my face was very swollen at month 2/3. I would give this more time.

 

I ended up choosing another Beverly Hills Doctor for my rhinoplasty. But thank you for the information.

 

I am so sorry this has happened to you. What are your plans going forward?

 

Sorry! I had vline, double jaw and genioplssty! I did not have rhinoplasty.

 

I am American and I traveled to Korea for surgery. I had two jaw, rhinoplasty and t-chin at Face Dental, July 2015. I had an elongated face and a strong jawline. My original posts about my experiences are still on the site if you are interested in reading them. Dr. Lee took his time to explain the surgery and expected outcome. I was very pleased with the results. I will say 4.5 years later I am looking for a necklift now that the skin is starting to sag. For the first 2 years it was not noticeable to me. My nose does look a bit wider as well. Other than that, going to TFD was a great decision and the ultimate game changer in my appearance. After my surgery, I found more confidence, met someone and got married, bought a house, and now on to life's next adventure. I have had many people volunteer that they find me attractive. The results I was hoping for, I received. Dr. Lee did not overpromise.

I am not on PF as often as I once was because I have essentially moved on with my life after a successful result. I am looking into rhinoplasty and a lift, as I mentioned earlier, but I plan to do those in the United States.

I wish you all the best with your surgery!

 

I consulted with EverM and TFD in 2015. EverM quoted roughly 20 million won, and told me they would not do vline due to my low jaw nerves. I found the consultation robotic and cold. Plus, they asked who else I consulted with and when I told them TFD, the consultant badmouthed them, which I felt was uncalled for. I was so put off, I decided to not work with them. TFD took their time and adr. Lee explained exactly what he was going to do to correct my issue. And the price point was half of EverM. I had vline, double jaw and rhinoplasty. It is approaching 5 years and his work has held up wel .

 

I had 2 jaw, vine and gemioplasty in 2015 at Face Dental clinic. The results have held up well and it improved my appearance. Back in 2015, I was quoted 9-10 million won. If you want good results, this is where to go.

 

I would love if you could PM this information as well. I am still consulting with clinics here.

 

I am so sorry to hear about your experience! This is not how to treat a patient that will likely spend a small fortune in their clinic. I am glad you've noted your experience. I have been on the fence about VIP for a while, and this review makes me think perhaps I should stay here in the US especially for the price they are charging. $15,000 for a revision rhinoplasty is competitive with what is being charged in nonmetropolitan cities in The United States.

 

I would love to know the answer to this question!

 

This is a competitive price for rib rhinoplasty nearly anywhere in the United States. I received a quote of $14,000 from a surgeon in Portland named Michael Kim.

 

I have just been in touch with Regen, and I was offered a discount to post reviews.

Hello dear,
Thank you for your email
Revision rhinoplasty cost 8600000KRW,
Fat grafting cost 2500000KRW
SMAS lifting cost 11000000KRW, Deep plane face lifting cost 13500000KRW.

There are discount optons it may applies upto 20~30%. Please let me know if you are interested
You could get 20% offed if you put deposit on it to lock up the date for surgery. (10% deposit is necessary)
I can offer you upto 30% if you are willing to write reviews for us as well as before and after photo
Holding the surgery spot before arrival (10% deposit is necessary)

If you have any questions please let me know

Best Regards,

Alice Lee
Regen

 

The price quoted was for a rib rhinoplasty. This includes pick up from the airport, aftercare and if I am not mistaken some time to recover in their apartment. Here is their initial email to me.


Thank you for completing the form.

Surgical cost is always individual, so it may vary by patient’s condition, procedure, and material used.

• 100% rib cartilage rhinoplasty: US$15,000
• Midface augmentation(rib cartilage): US$3,000

* The surgical cost includes anesthesia, doctor's operation, nursing care, 1-day in-patient hospitalization, injection fee, post-operative care, and doctor's dressing treatment.
* Prescription will be provided but out-patient medication is not included in the surgical cost. Medication can be bought from the nearby pharmacy and depending on your surgery, it will be around $20 ~$100.

The above fees will be honored for One Month from today's date. This quote is based on online consultation with photos and recommended surgeries may change after consultation with doctor in-person. There is 10% additional tax on plastic surgeries / treatments and you can get tax refund about ~8% at the airport. Your surgery must be paid in full prior to your scheduled surgery.

Please click the following link to see the process to visit our clinic: http://www.vippskorea.com/contact-us/process-to-visit-vip.html

VIP SERVICES
If you reserve your surgery ahead, I can offer you our convenient VIP services for free of charge so you lessen your burden on travel costs. If you would like to have the VIP services, please let me know so I can help you with the reservation process as it is limited to availability.
* For accommodation, we have VIP studio apartment which is located close to our clinic. The fee is normally $100 per night, but we are happy to offer you VIP studio apartment for free of charge during your stay in Korea (max 14 days). An additional stay will be charged $100 each night. You can click the following to see the apartment: http://blog.vippskorea.com/vip-accommodation-service/ Please note that the apartment is limited to availability.

* We also provide airport pick-up service for your convenience. Let me know when you reserve your flight ticket information once you book it so that I can arrange your pick up for you.
After the surgery, a professional aesthetician will take care of your skin and swelling by skin care treatment and healing treatment. These services will boost your recovery phase.

I would also like to emphasize that VIP is not a commercialized clinic and we strive for long-lasting results and highest safety for every single patient. We did not have a single medical malpractice for 18 years of practice since opening. Please click this link to see our extensive list of Before & After Pictures: http://vippskorea.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=before_after_photo

I hope this email finds you informative. Please let me know if you have any other questions. I am more than happy to help you out. Thank you.

Best regards,
Jessica

 

It is a rib rhinoplasty at that price. But again, I have been in contact with other surgeons and this price rivals rib rhinoplasty quotes from the best surgeons in The United States.
If anyone has experience with VIP clinic's results, I would love to hear about them.

 

I have been in contact with VIP clinic about a rhinoplasty-$15,000 USD and minifacelift/necklift/liposuction-$16,000.

These prices rival what I would be charged in Beverly Hills. Why is this clinic so expensive?

Is VIP really so good to charge these fees?

 

Please share what clinic you went to?

 

I have noticed most clinics in Korea performs lifts. I am going to consult about a necklift/facelift.

 

This is true. I am now looking at a way to tighten this. It only crinkles when I laugh.

 

It looks like fat to the kybella nurses, so I assumed it would have an effect on it.

I didn't notice the bunching until recently. I honestly wasn't aware of it before.

 

I had vline two jaw and genioplasty in 2015 at The Face Dental and now there is prominent bunching under my chin when I smile or laugh. Overall, I like how I look after the procedures, but the bunching is not good. I have tried Kybella, but that had no effect on it. It doesn't seem to be fat. I am afraid it will require some sort of lift. Does anyone know of a procedure that is appropriate to address this issue?


The bunching when I laugh:

 

it has been some time since I've posted here. I see there is some drama in here, smh. I had double jaw and vline (genioplasty, jaw reduction) with Face Dental in July 2015. I feel that Dr. Lee did a good job, but it was conservative. My only thing is I would like to see if my jawline and chin can be reduced more. I will say though, that no one knew that I had surgery, but many felt that I looked significantly better than before-they just didn't know why. I plan to return to Korea in a few months to consult with Face Dental and other clinics for a revision and to soften my look.

I have personally spoke to Carnation and she was not happy. I did feel that a revision after just 3 weeks was an absolute mistake. After my double jaw surgery, I went through the same anxiety as herself, but decided to not do a revision. Now after 2 years, I can officially say I see where improvements can be made. This post is to not attack Carnation in any way or to defend Face Dental.