blasian

February 24, 2015

Your results are very nice and natural. I will agree that based on what I can see that this was an improvement to your appearance. Some people will always say you look better before because I think they do not agree with plastic surgery. Thanks for the post.

February 24, 2015

starrynights127 said: ↑

Hi everyone,

I started planning my seoul plastic surgery trip a few months ago, and found most of my clinic, procedure information on Purseforum. Now that I've gone to consultations and booked my clinic, I'd like to share my experience and give some tips overall.

This is just my personal experience, and I'm not affiliated with the clinics in any way. So please take my experience as reference and do your own research =).

Tips for pre-trip:
1.) find people going to seoul at the same time, join a Kaokao group. I was fortunate to be part of the December seoul kaokao group and the gals there were so much help in moral support, procedure information, choosing clinics, etc. You can also find ladies to share accommodation with this way.

2.) Do not be fooled by clinics that say they use ultra soft silicon for nose. I was really concerned and thought only selected clinics use "ultra soft silicon", but it turns out all clinics use the same silicon, softer on the top, harder on the bottom, like an S shape.

3.) Pack everything you need: I bought surgery recovery kit, protein powder, baby wipes, straws, nose spray, cough drops, masks, syringe, etc.

4.) contact as many clinics as you can before going, even if it's just to get quotes.
the procedures I'm interested in were v-line and rhino. Here's the list of clinics I contacted and their email quote to me.

TL: 4.5M for nose, 9.5 for jaw reduction + buccal fat removal, 13M for jaw reduction and t-osteonomy

VIP: V-line 10M, lipolysis of cheek: 3M, rhino 6M, midface augmentation 2M

DA: rhino 3.3 M, jaw reduction 6M, chin reduction 6M, chin implant 3 M

Namu: 4-5M for v-line, 3.3M for nose, sliding genio 4M, chin implant 2.5M

Girin: v-line 6-7M, rhino 4M, fat graft for chin 1.2M, full face fat graft 1.8M, sliding genio 4.5 M

View: jaw 6M, chin 6M, chin implant 3M, rhino 3.3 M

The line: power v 3M, chin implant 2.25M, rhino 3.75M. (their online promotion 3M for nose, 5.4M for v-line, 2.4M power v, fat graft 1.2M in one area. Also, if you sign up to be model for them, they will take 50% off)

April 31: 6M for rhino, 8M for v-line including jaw reduction and sliding genioplasty

I also received quote information from friends and purseforum ladies that did surgery in the above clinics, and they were cheaper than the above quotes. Also keep an eye out for online promotions and fb events of the clinics. There can be great deals sometimes. So a combination of the email quotes, online promotion and friends quotes was what I used to haggle during consultations.

I'll add to the list if I recall anything more later. Now onto my consultation experience.

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Hey there, it has been a while since your surgery and curious to know how are you healing? I am planning to visit Girin in a few months and your information would be very helpful.

February 24, 2015

sssxccc said: ↑

Hi everyone!!!

So, I know that I had created a thread a couple of months ago with my research for double eyelid surgery and also had some consultations set up so I wanted to start a new thread with my consultation experiences, feelings, and also who I decided to go through the surgery with. You can find that old thread here.

PurseForum really helped me a lot in terms of narrowing down clinics that I felt would be "worth" it so I think it's necessary to give back and also share my experiences as well hoping that it'll also be helpful.

I ended up going with Opera for my surgery:
www.operasurgery.co.kr - their website doesnt work for English though
[email protected]
WeChat for the consultant JiaoLan: [email protected]
Dr. Chong Su Woo

Here are the list of clinics that I actually ended up going to and that I'll be reviewing
10/28
- Teium
- Regen
- Oz
- Wannabe
- MVP
- DAPRS - had one here but we didn't go due to lack of time and location
10/29
- Wonjin
- Opera
- Apejeoung - had appointment here but we decided not to go to it since we didn't think it was within our budget.

{ About Me & My Budget }
Surgery Request: Incisional double eyelid, ptosis, epi
Other concerns: I want a crease that is natural and tapered so that it will look more realistic.
My budget: $2000 - ~ 2mil won

When choosing a clinic I am taking into consideration pricing, skill and comfort with the clinics. I want to make sure I get a good vibe from them and will place comfort over price but want to find a middle grown between the two. Afterall, they are my eyes and Ill have them for the rest of my life.

Here are pictures (see below!)

Opera MY CHOICE FOR SURGERY
PROS:
-Walked in without any appointments and they were able to accommodate me with an Chinese translator speaker so last minute. We went right when they open and they saw us in about 10 minutes
- Good pricing (its not cheap, but its not expensive)
- They were busy which is a good sign and shows that a lot of people go to them. It was a mix between some Chinese people and some local Koreans, also a good sign!
- The doctor was really thorough, good and friendly!
-Nice office & great staff

CONS:
-They dont have an English translator unless if you make an appointment I provided the information above at the very top of this post. I personally had trouble trying to get an appointment due to language barriers and I know others as well, so I tried to get as much info as I can to share for those interested.

The only reason why I went to Opera was because I saw it on PF and people mentioned that it was a place a lot of locals went to. I tried numerous times to make an appointment but it was difficult with the language barrier since they arent like the other clinics that try to fish out the foreigners for more money. But because of this they are able to have good pricing for GREAT quality and staff.

Since I didnt have an appointment, I ended up walking in with my friend. Shes Chinese so thankfully this really helped and made everything possible because they had a Chinese translator on staff. Upon walking in, one of the things that stood out was that basically ALL the staff had gotten up for us. It was kind of scary lol and a lot of pressure but I think it was really respectful of them to do that when all the other clinics were nice but they would just try to shuffle you around to their foreigner desk.

So in our consult room was the main consultant, the doctor, and the translator. During the consultation with the consultant she was also very thorough and the only one that actually touched our eyes and used the little metal thing to simulate folds. She even measured out eyes with a mini rule to check sizing and grabbed on my friends eye fat to get a better idea. This was so different than the other clinics whos consultants had basically just asked us what we wanted and gave us information but they didnt do any analyzing or in depth consult prior to seeing the doctor. So this already made me feel really good about Opera.

When the doctor came in he sat down and smiled and was so friendly. Despite the language barrier he actually looked like he was happy to be there and most importantly, again, he was also really thorough with our consultation. He made me open and close my eyes multiple times and did different crease heights for me and also analyzed the severity of my ptosis and noted one side was worst than the other and so forth on. His hands were also very gentle which I like especially for a plastic surgeon.

By the end of the consult me and my friend really liked Opera and decided that we liked Opera more than Wannabe based off consultation thoroughness and overall vibe. It wasnt just a matter of pricing.

Operas pricing wasnt the lowest compared to all the clinics that we had gone to, but it was good (at least I felt so) for the quality of the work that they had on their site, for their staff attentiveness, and doctor consultation. I felt REALLY comfortable with them as well, more than Wannabe. This doesnt mean that theyre not good, but this is just a personal feeling. I really value the feeling I get with a clinic because I think gut instincts are really important. I trust Opera.

With pricing, the initial quotes that we had gotten was 2.7mil for double, epi, and ptosis and we were able to negotiate it down to 2.1mil for everything including the tax and it was cash payment.

We immediately decided to make an appointment and we paid for it (Im getting my surgery today 10/29 couple of hours before Im writing this lol because I got some PMs from people asking about feedback on my consults!).

Im very excited and incredibly scared still to go under the knife, but I am really happy and confident so far that Opera will do an amazing job!!!

More updates to come within the next couple of weeks about my recovery!!~

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I just looked at your blog and it is a really organized site! Thank you so much for this information! For what I spent on my eyes in the United States, I should have gone to Korea and may have had a better experience.

Your eyes look great. Opera did a good job.

February 24, 2015

seekinghope said: ↑

Hi Chopstixs, what surgeries are you planning to do?

I am looking at a couple of surgeries too to travel to Korea mid this year, anyone can recommend or suggest how I should plan or sequence the following surgeries? I doubt they will be all performed under the same clinic because I prefer to get specialist in the specific area.

- Eyes
- Breast Enhancement through fat transfer
- V-line
- Rhinoplasty (I read in earlier comments it should be refrained from doing with the breast enhancements)

Appreciate your sharing and kind advice~

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I am curious to know if the idea of implants bother you? I have little experience with breast augmentation with fat, but I would imagine there is a chance some of the fat may be absorbed. For where I used to be (A cup) before that idea would have stressed me out if an ounce of fat disappeared. I went in for breast implants in 2005 and it has worked out fine for me.

February 24, 2015

mhjkkal said: ↑

dunno about Dream. but The Line is relatively new clinic, isn't it? you better go to clinic more experienced one in my opinion, especially for the bone surgery. Hopefully you can find lots of infoms from this forum! (very informative!)

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I have heard good things about Dream clinic in Korea, but I definitely do not recommend the clinic in Koreatown, in Los Angeles. They were also very expensive. I will agree that I am having a hard time finding information about the Line.

February 24, 2015

chopstixs said: ↑

Hi Blasian! I am also planning on going this May 2015 for eyelid revision and rhino. How did you figure out which hotel to book?? I think figuring out the whole boarding is stressful..primary stress being trying to figure out which places I want to consult with of course

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I actually looked for hotels in the area where the clinic is, and spent hours reading reviews lol. People seem to be fairly honest about their hotel experiences on tripadvisor.com or agoda.com
I just want a place to lay my head because I am hoping when some of the swelling goes down I can walk around and see a little of Seoul, instead of being stuck in a room all day. I was shocked about how expensive hotels in Seoul are! They charge nearly as much as any hotel here in the United States.

February 24, 2015

Ulzzang Quest said: ↑

Hi Blasian! I'm a newbie too and going for my first primary "basics" (eyes and nose, as minimal / natural as possible-- so opposite of what your intending) but share your excitement in having booked flight/lodging to travel soon too!

I just wanted to voice my opinion to you fwiw... While I don't know in detail what the procedures you're interested in entails, I believe a few of them might be quite invasive. Simply want to point out that doing everything all at once might make recovery feel "hellish". Just something you might want to consider. I'm going to be traveling alone, and doing what many would consider 'minor'... But I'm still nervous about my pain-and-suffering-for-beauty threshold post op.

If you do decide on doing all of the procedures together, I'd suggest you have someone with you (I'm a bit nervous going alone, but anticipate local sedation) but if you're going under general anesthesia (which I'm thinking V line would entail), I hope someone can be there to support you, and also that you make sure the place(s) / doctor(s) you choose have a good record of aftercare service, and that you're well informed of the post op healing / recovery process, so you're as prepared as possible to know what to generally expect (as well as any possible complications).

But I'm not the most knowledgable in PS. Just adding my two cents thinking of the practicalities!

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Thank you for looking out for me. I did do my research and it does seem that these would be intense procedures! I am ready for the challenge! I am actually not new to plastic surgery, but this would by far be the most invasive surgeries I will have.

February 23, 2015

I am new to this forum, and I am glad I discovered it because I am planning to go to Seoul in May 2015 for various procedures. I am looking for a dramatic change from where I am currently. My face appears a little long, and I have a really prominent, square chin and jaw. I have had ptosis surgery with Dr. Kim in Los Angeles and the stitch has loosened and now my eyes look like they did before surgery. I have grown tired of disliking what I see and now I am just going to do this. My hotel is booked!

This is what I plan to do:

V-line for jaw
T-chin
fat graft to forehead and cheeks
Zygoma reduction
Acculift for under chin
and eye revision

I am considering Girin or View Clinic. Whatever feedback about these clinics you can give me would be very helpful.

February 20, 2015

And writing out the address in Korean is a perfect idea. Especially if I decide one day I do not want to take the subway after my surgery looking puffy and swollen.

February 20, 2015

Wow, what an amazing and realistic read! Thank you so much.

February 20, 2015

salmonnn said: ↑

im so sorry to hear that and i feel sorry to me too i have done my jaw , zygoma, nose and forehead in id and i have so bad result my cheeks r drooping my jaw lines r not smooth my zygoma arent in same size and when i smile there is a hole on my right cheek im so sad now i need to know where is really good i want to go and re do my jaw T^T anyone pls suggest me thanks .

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Where did you go for surgery? I am sorry to hear about your results.

February 8, 2015

Cherieohcherie said: ↑

I agree with emsomeo. They give u overprice in email. But at the clinic u can bargain with them. And maybe sometimes up to 30-50% off the initial quoted price. It helps if you are going with more people. I did mine at daprs. The aftercare wasn't too good i feel. But the docs are good.

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When I go to Korea I think I will do a consultation with DA.

February 8, 2015

AkuraiRain said: ↑

No problem, if all else fails stay in the US. There's a Dream plastic surgery branch in Los Angeles with the same medical procedures as everyone else.

http://www.drkennethkim.com/about-us/about-la-dream/

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I think Dr. Kim's office is rather expensive. I did my eyelids there a few years ago.

February 1, 2015

K Couture said: ↑

nope no threads involved. Acculift is a form of laser lipolysis. I did acculift for facial symmetry. That is, balancing the fat content from one side with the other by reducing more on the right and a little bit on the left. Took 10 mins and results were great.

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Thank you for the info

February 1, 2015

K Couture said: ↑

One of our forumers I been chating to on kakao had a terrible experience at everm. Her and her sister did zygoma and vline there and sagging aside, she had very bad after care. It was only after her incision site split open and the bone showing that the surgeon finally decided to see her post op.

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Is sagging common with zygoma reduction? I am planning to do this with vline and I dont want my face to sag too soon. That will mean another surgery.

February 1, 2015

I have not thought to contact Banobagi because I have read their prices are a bit higher than other places. Perhaps I will give them a shot, since they seem to offer some accommodations to their patients.

February 1, 2015

Does anyone know that if Acculift uses threads at all? I have read terrible reviews about thread-lifting.

February 1, 2015

I have emailed DAPRS and was told I needed two jaw. The price was pretty high (18,000 krw) and if I wanted to do more I am sure it will cost even more. Because of this alone, I do not think I will visit them.

February 1, 2015

shinyglittery said: ↑

The Ultimate Korean PS Resource Thread ^_^
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

~~~~~~Here you find clinics' contact info ++ B&A Pictures~~~~~
I have compiled the contact info and notes on over 70 PS clinics in Korea! ^_^
~Yes it was a lot of work but also a lot of fun!!~!

I divided the list into 4 images (click on the text "Image1" to open the image):

Image1:
Clinics:
More known (to non-Koreans)/Easy to find:
1. Before&After
2. Dream
3. Grand
4. VIP
5. Regen
6. ID&Clinic9
7. Apgujeong PS
8. Pitangui
9. Teuim
10. Migo
11. JK
12. Dr Jung Rhino
13. Chungdam U
14. B&A

Image2:
15. SmallFace
16. Banobagi
17. Item
18. Oz
19. BK
20. Samsung PS
Harder to find (you can find them here! ^-^!):
21. Life PS
22. AT Clinic
23. Hus'hu
24. Dio PS
25. Siwoo
26. Yangyeonmu PS (양연모 성형외&#44284
27. YK PS
28. TOP PS (Top Class PS)
29. CK PS
30. Namu PS
31. BeFor PS

Image3:
32. Petit
33. EverM
34. Opera
35. CH
36. WonJin
37. Designer
38. Beauty Forever
39. Nano
40. 365mc
41. Faceline
42. O & Young
43. YnY
44. Jewelry
45. Namu (Yes, accidentally twice! xD)
46. Image
47. Bandoeye
48. Coco Line
49. Cinderella
50. Kangnam PS
51. Girin
52. TL PS (The Line/Trend Line PS)

Image4:
53. View
54. NU
54. JW
55. Dr. Han (HanFace)
56. Golden Ratio Hospital
57. Magic Nose
58. SangBum
59. YonSei First PS
60. Ruby PS
61. Woojin
62. Foret (La Forêt PS)
63. Aphrodite Clinic
64. Kim Hansung PS
65. Fresh PS
66. Selanger PS
67. Conopi PS
68. Magic Dermatology
69. Labella Clinic
70. LJH Skin Clinic
71. StarM Clinic
72. MiPlus Clinic

There~! ^_____^

Marir did an amazing job talking to all those girls on Naver about their surgeries and collecting B&A's! ^__^ Thank you so much!!

I made it a little easier to see just the B&A's (or just A's) from different clinics~!

Click HERE for a gallery!

(Image name = clinic name!)

143 pictures from 39 clinics~!

I hope this will help you in your research~! ^__^

More tips: Some websites have webchats with real time assistance, even if the assistant doesn't speak English s/he can help you! If you put Korean words into English sentences and make them very simple they can at least give you the address, phone number, email and so on! Don't be frightened by the language barrier~!

Some prices (for Koreans, depending on your bargaining skills and many things they can be your prices too~ (I have been quoted similar prices by some clinics so it really depends!)

girin eyelid revision: $1526
girin: square jaw (v-line)+zygoma $6735, nose revision $4046
Regen zygoma+v-line = $9891 (combined surgery discount)
BeFor v-line $6286
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

We are all in this together, let us help each other~! Good luck ^__^ May your dreams come true~!

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This list is amazing. Thank you so much for this information and the before and after photos!

February 1, 2015

odnok said: ↑

If you look at the other threads on here, there was a case on wonjin, someone died in the surgery because of the shadow doctors.

And if you really want to go to those clinics, I would recommend jk since they have won awards on their services. Since Bb has some mixed reviews. But I never went their so I wouldn't know for sure how their services are.

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Before I started reading more often on this thread, I was seriously considering Wonjin! I am so glad that I did not give them any money. Also, they were significantly more expensive and wanted me to pay about $19,000 USD, this is why I started looking around more. For that kind of money I can just stay in the United States.

February 1, 2015

Thank you for this information. I was almost tempted to look into staying at a guest house, and because of this review, now I will not.

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