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Between Dr. Seong and Dr. Hong at GNG, who does the more natural looking noses?

 

Is Dr. Seong proficient at English?

 

Why would you go through with something as extreme as a genioplasty when an implant will achieve the same thing? chin implants are usually well tolerated. There are secondary issues with genioplasty that you should probably look into.

 

Why would you go to him? The reviews are terrible and most consider him too old to be practicing now.

 

I agree completely with your statement. DO NOT get any surgery in South East Asia period! The skills of doctors there are outdated and substandard. Do not do any plastic surgery in Thailand, Vietnam, or Philippines.

 

JW? Can you share what you've learned?

 

You have to look for them.
https://www.realself.com/review/glendale-ca-disappointed-primary-rhinoplasty-grigoryants?rating=not-worth-it&offset=67&sle=0
https://www.realself.com/review/glendale-ca-rhinoplasty-dr-grigoryants?rating=not-worth-it&offset=150&sle=0#
https://www.realself.com/review/glendale-ca-rhinoplasty-unhappy-nose-from-grigoryants?rating=not-worth-it&offset=187&sle=0
https://www.realself.com/review/glendale-ca-rhinoplasty-worth-dr-grigoryants-good-aware?rating=not-worth-it&offset=296&sle=0
https://www.realself.com/review/glendale-ca-excited-and-awaiting-my-rhinoplasty?rating=not-worth-it&offset=490&sle=0

All you have to do is sort his reviews and you'll find them. Plus, a lot of them have been removed because the patients settled or were probably threatened.
I read specifically on realself from patients that he does not feel comfortable with Asian noses.

 

Grigoryants had tons of very negative reviews, plus he doesn't do asian rhinoplasty.

 

This is exactly the info I was looking for. Dr. Suh, overall, still seems like a good doctor, but stuff like this does concern me. Thank you for your input.

 

Who else did you consult with and have you come to a decision?

Do you have a droopy tip when you smile? Usually that procedure is to prevent the tip from pulling down when smiling.

 

As far as square jaw reduction goes, have you tried botox? It works pretty well in most circumstances and I would at least try it out before deciding on permanent surgery. You have to know you'll like the look. Consider it like test driving before you buy.

 

@K Couture I always assumed you were young, so I'm surprised you got a facelift. Anyways, glad you are happy and done with surgeries.

Once again, you are always so knowledgable about the specific requirements for an Asian face. Although I am male and would never consider a facelift, it's very interesting to read.

 

Who is this doctor? I agree, proceed very very carefully. You are dealing with the eye area and all the sensitive arteries in that area. Removing filler that stuck to the tissues esp. in the eye area is very delicate and intricate surgery.

 

Why would it be considered revision? Did you the kind of fillers that could not be dissolved with an injection?

 

Is your nose red because of an infection or because your body just doesn't tolerate the implant?

Can't they use your ear cartilage from your other ear and septal cartilage to raise your bridge? So basically you are just going to remove the implant and shorten the tip so it matches the lower bridge?

 

Most surgeons don't use silicone in the US because most rhinos here are done on Caucasians, and Caucasian skin is usually too thin to withstand the pressure exerted by the implant. It's less of an issue with Asians because of thicker skin and more fatty layers. That said, there are tons of Asians who have complications as well from implants.

 

Okay guys. After reading tons I've narrowed down my list for revision. I've shortlisted Dr. Suh at JW, however there seems to be quite a bit of conflicting opinions about his recent work. If you've had a rhinoplasty with Dr. Suh or know someone who's had one with him in the last few years, what is your opinion on his current skill level? Has it deteriorated? Is he still a reliable and consistent surgeon?

I've read some "negative" reviews, but it seems the problem with these reviews is that the patient wanted something more dramatic than what he was able to deliver. To me, this is not a problem because I want to look as natural as possible given my first awful rhino.

Are there any cases of actual botches by Dr. Suh? Any info is greatly appreciated.

 

I have heard nothing but bad reviews of Wave. I don't know about eyes, but their rhinos are not good.

 

I agree, the pieces that were excised should be sent to a lab and analyzed. That's really the only way that it can be determined what was injected into your face. If it is indeed a permanent filler, the only way to remove it is through surgery. The only way to control it without surgery, is to get cortisone injections to flatten them. The material will still be there, but at least the cortisone will flatten that lump. This is only a workaround because they can come back, but sometimes people get complete resolution of lumps with a strong enough dose of kenalog / kenacort. The downside is that high percentages of cortisone can cause major atrophy so it takes a real expert to inject it correctly.

 

I find that a dramatic nose will age badly. It's just a fashion thing, and fashions always go out of style. You'll be stuck with that look and looking at a potentially expensive revision. In my opinion, dramatic almost always looks fake in person. I have yet to see a dramatic nose that fits an Asian person's face. If you live in South Korea, maybe you can get away with it, but in the US people will just look at you like you're a plastic freak and judge you harshly. I'm also looking for a revision to look natural, or as close to it as possible, after horrible first primary where the surgeon used a huge implant on me against my direct instructions.

@Vivavita · "After having an unnatural nose for years, I just wanted a natural-looking nose like those noses made by Dr. Kim@April 31, Dr. Choi@Apujeong Seoul, Dr. Seong @GNG or Dr. Kim@Item. Dr. Suh @JW was kind of in the middle of both."

When you say Dr. Suh @JW is in the middle of both, do you mean he has an aesthetic that is between dramatic and natural? I'm in a similar situation where my rhino looks unnatural to men. I'm looking at Dr. Suh very closely, but I may change my mind if he does anything that might look too dramatic. I just can't live with that look anymore.

 

Artecoll is one of the brand names for PMMA. In the US it used to be called Artefill, now Bellafill. In other countries it can be called Artesense, or other variations.

 

Based on what she said, "acuamine" sounds a lot like Aquamid, which is indeed a permanent filler. Obviously we don't know for sure if that was what was used on you, but if you are having this kind of reaction this many years later it's likely this may be it. Restylane doesn't behave like that.

 

As far as I know, Artecoll or Artesense is the permanent filler that most clinics in SK seem to use. Typically this would not be used under the eyes, but who knows since you are suspicious of this clinic. Have you tried dissolving the lump with hyaluronidase? If it is a hyaluronic acid like Restylane and Juvederm, it can be dissolved at any point in time. If you try to dissolve the bump and it still doesn't go away, then most likely it is a permanent filler of some sort. If it keeps growing back, that would indicate a granuloma which is usually a reaction to permanent fillers.

 

This is just the latest generation version of gortex. It is still goretex. Surgiform is just the name of one of the brands / maker of gortex that is used for medical devices. They have a website.

As for JW characterizing it as "dangerous", I'm not sure where they are getting that from. It is definitely harder to remove since goretex is porous and your tissues grow into it and fixate it in place. Silicone is completely non-porous, so your body forms a capsule around it, and it slips out easily if it needs to be removed.

https://surgiform.com/product/and-choose?v=c65242dc6c2c

 

Invisible, which clinic told you that gortex is okay for your surgery? JW or April 31?

@rockisbae Do you know how big your implant is in terms of millimeters?