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Does this mean they don't have an inhouse anaesthesiologist? May I know who does the sedation if they don't ask for an anaesthesiologist to come in for simpler cases? Is it the doctor?

I read that it is better for clinics to have a dedicated anaesthesiologist as they would know how to monitor the amount of anaesthesia/sedation needed for safety of the patient?

 

@Trinity0010 where did you get your des done?

 

Nice results! Did the doctor caution or advise you about any side effects that may occur from your FC surgery? Do ypu feel any side effects such as numb sensations or any disruption to nerve sensations like what some other people experience?

Btw, does the clinic have any english translator or can you consult online/through kakao in english?

 

@jambition may I know who your doctor was at Secret? Have heard some people mention Secret for some procedures like eyes and nose but can't find much info or reviews here. What's their website?

 

Hi @MissOrange, I 've tried creating a staright brow before and unfortunately it doesn't suit me (LOL it made me look kinda angry) as i have an angular face shape. Also, my natural brow arch is pretty high so i can only follow my natural shape like this but lower the top a little so it doesn't make me look too fierce.

I'm looking to get my eyebags/undereye fat sorted out next but still undecided whether to get it done with a local surgeon or go back to Korea (which i may not have time for since it'll be peak season for my work and my boss will definitely not let me go on another long leave).

 

Here is an update of my recovery so far. I am finally 1 month into recovery.

 

@Madambutterfly89 Does this mean everyone who gets zygoma reduction surgery or some sort of FC will experience sagging muscles, even those who get it done in their 20s?

I read someone's post somewhere on pf that FC surgeries like v-line and zygoma reshaping can cause such an effect to the face but i haven't seen a real example of its after effects till your post of that lady. That is scary! To think wanting a slim face would lead to a one that sags faster.

 

You can buy it from one of the counters at the airport arrival hall. Look for a counter that displays the t-money card sign. They have 2 counters I think. Get the Amazing T-money card (meant for tourists), it allows you to get some discounts at certain places if you flash the card, as compared to the normal T-money card. The card is about 50,000won and comes preloaded with around 45000won credit in it.

You can look up the t-money website to find out where you can use the card for discounts. The amazing t-money card also gives you discount off the airport limousine bus as well. You can ask the staff at the counter on how to use the card when you buy it. They'll also give you a brochure on information about the card.

 

Like what Keii said, you can use cash or the t-money card to pay the cab fare. But just make sure you have sufficient cash with you just in case the cab driver doesn't accept t-money payment, cause that happened to me. One cab driver wanted cash payment instead of t-money payment.

If you are getting a surgery that still allows you to move around easily (as in you don't have to be bed-bound the entire recovery period) such as v-line, rhinoplasty or eyelid surgery, you can also take the subway. It's super easily to travel around by subway as there are English signs and announcements. Download Naver maps if you need navigation for public transport or even walking directions - it was a lifesaver for me and my mum while we were in Seoul.

 

Did you have to book an appointment beforehand or you just walked in?

 

@beauty.beast @estheryuki

Hi guys, I've already had my surgery done and posted my experience in a new thread over here (see link below).
# Esther, I added you to the kakao chatgroup.

 

Personally I feel it's best to just go on your own. Like what you've said, docfinder does result in you paying a higher price to the clinic (usually the case) and they work with a few selected clinics so most of the time you may be limited to the clinics they recommend you.

Depending on what procedures you do, many clinics around have translators or English-speaking consultants (some may have Mandarin-speaking ones if they cater to many Chinese patients). If not, search around for your own translator and make sure they only translate for you and not recommend clinics or are brokers for any clinics.

 

Hi, I'd also like to know which clinic is this. I am also considering skincare treatments on my future trips to Korea too. Wouldn't want to get ripped off as a foreigner too. Could you PM me the name of the clinic?

 

Ok I've added you on kakao!

 

MissOrange, how are Dr Seo's primary nose results like? Is it more of the straight shape or with a curve at the end? And since he is more on the conservative side, i'm assuming his approach to noses will be a more natural and subtle change too?

 

Do you have kakao? PM me your kakao ID and i'll add you to one of the groupchats about eyes and nose. Someone has posted the kakao grouplinks somewhere on this forum too, just that the thread may have been lost among all the newer threads.

 

Hi Estheryuki. If it helps, I am non Korean, and I had also never been to Korea before my recent eyelid surgery there. So you don't have to be too nervous as many people (in this forum and even outside PF) have gone to Korea for the first time to get PS done and were totally fine!

First, it'll be helpful to state what type of eyelids you want to get done. Are you looking more for the dolly eyed look or natural and conservative creases? Because there are so many clinics in Korea (i know how you feel when i was clinic-hunting online because there are so many options), there are those that specialize or are better at producing certain types of looks.

Since now till December is still quite some time to go, there is still plenty of time to research on the types of creases and the method of surgery you wish to go for, as well as clinics. Try doing some online consultations with clinics too, so as to compare what procedures they generally recommend across most clinics you consult with and how much the cost will be.

You may want to do more research on the clinics you have listed above. Research on B/A of people who have done surgery there and if the results are generally what you like or are there any botched jobs etc.

I find that joining one of the kakao chatgroups does help as well, if you use kakao. People there share about their experiences consulting and having surgery with different clinics.

 

Yup Elizabeth was my main consultant at the clinic. Yeah she usually has her hair in a bun i think, and speaks with a British accent i think?She's still there. Maybe when you went, she was on leave?

 

@Wondermuffin Hi there. I am not sure if Dr seo did any ptosis correction for me. Perhaps he only did a little or none, because when i consulted him face to face he did not mention anything about me having weak eye muscles. And prior to coming to Korea, I had also consulted a local plastic surgeon for his opinion, and was told i do not have true ptosis as my eyelids do not droop or cover much of my iris, just pseudo-ptosis which can already be corrected through des.

I actually found MVP's pricing to be quite reasonable compared to a lot of other clinics, especially for foreigners. PM me if you want to know the price.

Good luck for your DES and Lasik! And have fun in Korea! (I haven't explored and shopped enough there haha)

 

@MissOrange Thanks for the advice! Yes i do find i need to blink more after i got des done. I'll try using eyedrops, hope this helps to relieve my dry eyes. But i suppose this is just a temporary side effect from the surgery?

 

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Hi @MissOrange! Thanks for the compliments! I was actually hiding my bruises behind my prescription sunglasses for a week till my bruising got better towards the last few days in Korea. I am intending to get Lasik done in future so I don't have to wear glasses or contact lenses.

Could I check with you if light sensitivity is common after DES? After i returned to wearing glasses the past week, I've noticed that my eyes would feel sensitive to sunlight or natural light (on cloudy days) on and off when I am outdoors and i have to use my hand to shade my eyes or squint in order to make them feel comfortable to stay open. And they feel abit teary too. But once I am back indoors under artificial lighting, my eyes don't experience any of these sensations.

Not sure if this is a temporary side effect from the surgery or due to dry eyes? Do you know?

 

As mentioned above, I had plans to consult a few clinics - MVP, Teuim and Namu, regarding eyelid surgery but due to unforeseen circumstances, I ended up only consulting at MVP before getting surgery done.

I touched down in Seoul in the morning on 17 May and had already scheduled a consultation appointment with Dr Seo at MVP at 11am that day and with Dr Kwon at Teuim in the early afternoon, along with deciding to do a walk-in consult at Namu but due to a massive traffic jam from the airport to Seoul and heavy rain, I ended up missing my appointment at MVP. I messaged MVP's consultants and they kindly told me I could still come as soon as I can and I may still be able to consult with Dr Seo. Hence, I decided to do so and was first attended to by Victoria, one of the English-speaking consultants. She told me that I may have to wait awhile due to many patients in the schedule, which I was ok with since I was late. Unfortunately, due to Dr Seo's extremely busy schedule, after waiting for about an hour, i was told that he would only be free after 5pm that day as he had back-to-back surgeries till 5. So i agreed to come back at 5. I decided to give the other 2 clinics a miss due to insufficient time to travel back and forth clinics and I already was kind of set on MVP before coming to Seoul.

Consultation time:
I came back to the clinic at 5 and was attended to for the rest of my PS journey by Elizabeth, who is really nice. I finally consulted with Dr Seo and asked him about all the procedures I had thought of doing and showed him some photos of my ideal types of creases, with Elizabeth doing the translation. Dr Seo was really polite and mild mannered, but he was very honest about what would suit me based on my natural eye shape and structure, which i appreciated. I had wanted to do undereyes as well apart from DES, but Dr Seo advised me against it, saying I didn't need it (which i am glad i did not do as both my upper and lower eyelids were pretty swollen after surgery for several days just from DES). He also did not think i needed epicanthoplasty, and just recommended full incision with some skin excision and fat removal. I was presented with two possible looks according to what i had discussed with him - a tapered but slightly slimmer crease or
- a crease like IU's with the possibility of becoming parallel lids due to my eye shape

Dr Seo and Elizabeth told me i could think about it before settling on the final type of crease I want on the surgery day. After the consultation, it was time to schedule the surgery date and payment. After checking Dr Seo's schedule, I was told that he was booked for surgery through till the next Friday, which I told Elizabeth was impossible for me because I would be flying out of Korea a few days after that. I told her I was on a tight schedule in Korea as I had planned to get surgrry the next day with a buffer time of a week for recovery and a few days after that to travel around Seoul ( i had already prebooked a tour for my mum and I after the week i set aside for recovery). Elizabeth was really sweet and told me she would try her best to fit me in as soon as possible due to my short time in Korea. Thankfully, she managed to and i was scheduled for surgery the next afternoon on the 18th.

 

Hi all, the above was my initial post in another thread that I've brought over. I will be sharing my experience getting DES done with MVP Plastic Surgery in the next post.

 

Surgery day:
I arrived at MVP for surgery preparation at around 1pm, with my scheduled surgery for DES around 3pm. Elizabeth asked me if i had decided on the type of crease i want amd I told her i had decided on getting tapered creases. After i had changed into the surgery gown, she explained to me what would happen during the surgery and I was led to a waiting room while i waited for the operating theatre to be available.

Finally when I was in the op theatre, I was given sedation via IV, and local anaesthesia administered after that. Honestly, I did not feel any pain when the LA was injected. As the sedation started taking effect and i aas getting slightly drowsy, Dr Seo came in along with some other nurses and the surgery began. I don't remember exactly how long the surgery took but I felt no pain at all throughout the whole time, and it was a weird experience as i was like a half-asleep robot, and I just opened and closed my eyes according to the doctor's instructions, along with short strange dreams. The only thing I remembered seeing were some different colours and something bright yellow like a giant block of cheese. After that, I kind of dozed off and when i was awaken awhile later by Elizabeth, I was already in the recovery room where my mum was waiting. Going from monolids to double eyelids, i could feel a slight change in sensation when I blinked my eyes as I opened them. Ellen (another consultant) and Elizabeth came in and told my mum and I that my results were looking very nicely done.

After a short rest, Elizabeth brought me my post-op medications and pumpkin porridge, and after explaining the dos and don'ts for the post-op care, I was ready to leave the clinic. As it was already early evrning as we left, Elizabeth was really sweet to help my mum and I hail a taxi back to our hotel.

Recovery:
I had a pretty smooth recovery aside from the usual expected blurry vision after surgery. To help with deswelling, I took Sinecch (Arnica for surgery), bromelain and vit C supplements. I also drank pumpkin juice (bought from the nearby pharmacies) on and off for a couple of days. My bruising and swelling were quite bad in the first 4 days following surgery but with the supplements, cold and warm compress and medication, it subsided quite well eventually. I also went back to the clinic twice for cleaning, IV vitamin drip and laser deswelling therapy before stitches were taken out on the 5th day after surgery.

Eyelid photos:
I have attached my B/A photos below regarding my journey so far for these 2 weeks of recovery. Please do not share or circulate these pictures without my permission.

Pre-op eyes:


Post surgery:








I am now exactly 2 weeks since surgery and I am satisfied with how my eyes have been looking so far. I am thankful that Dr Seo did a good job and as I have been told the full result of my surgery will be seen after up to 6 months of recovery, I hope that my eyes will eventually turn out to be what I want. I am also really grateful for Elizabeth and Victoria for the help that they have given me, including arranging transport pick-up for my mum and I to the airport on the last day of my trip.