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Hi all, Quick updates: I submitted a deposit for That Day/Geunal, and finally got a response with IQ. With IQ, I did their online 1:1 doctor consult. You submit your photos through a private post, and the doctor gets back to you. He said he doesn't see my eye line size difference as that severe, but understands it may be a stressor. He said that in-out would be the only possible line for me (which is fine as that's my current line, and that's what I want anyways). He said that because my case isn't so severe, I shouldn't expect extremely drastic results and to keep that in mind as I consider my surgery, especially since if I don't have enough excess skin, they may have to do the two-line suture method (the one mentioned), which has a higher chance of more visible scarring. He ultimately recommended incision (revision) + ptosis correction + lowering the line (double crease if necessary). Fat grafting does not appear necessary, but a fat-lowering procedure could be performed in conjunction. Like I suspected, I can't make significant changes to my eye tilt being slightly different as its just my anatomy. Unfortunate, but I do admit I think it's one of those things that no one but me notices. I liked how honest he was, even online. I then found their Kakao channel and found that they post their pricing. For revision incisional, it can go from 4-6 mil won, and will probably be a bit more based on the extra stuff they recommended. However, they're fully booked for consultations alone until mid-April. I'm hesitant to even put down my name for a consultation as my plans for Korea in April are currently shaky. Based on this alone, I probably won't go with them as I don't even know if getting the consultation in April AND doing the surgery is possible. As for Geunal, I put down a deposit as they're my current top choice just based on results and I wanted to ensure that if I still felt good about them, I would be able to actually move forward. It was $222 USD. However, I am willing to take it as a loss if I do not get a good feeling from them after the consult. I'd rather lose $200 than walk away dissatisfied with my eyes.

I would use it more as a way to find clinics and see B/As quickly instead of using it as the single source of truth. The B/As may be edited, but you still get a grasp of the doctor's style and whatnot.

Hi @calmwaters, I'm traveling for this. I'm not staying in the Gangnam area, but this is purely due to my own preference as the area itself is out of the way of all the other fun things to do in Seoul. I'm staying for an extended period of time, so I'll be consulting in person and then hopefully doing my surgery around a week later.

These were all online consultations! I'm expecting each in person consult to take around 1-2 hours, including the waiting time.

Hi, Here are some updates. I plan on adding IQ Plastic Surgery to my in-person clinic list, and have also submitted a request to get a doctor's consult on their website. They are a one-person clinic, and he only focuses on eyes. While I like the results, there aren't as many, so I'm still waiting to see what he says first. I talked more to TS, and will most likely not go with them. The chief director, who is the only one I'm really interested in, is not available at all while I am in Korea as he will be attending training. He is the only doctor who consistently has cases of dealing with eyes like mine from TS. It has also been confirmed that he is also the only doctor who you cannot do event pricing for. They offered to match me with a different doctor, and I decided to go with Kim Ki Jae. There's also another doctor that they suggested, but he seems to do more revision rhinos. Dr. Kim seems to have a good amount of revision eye cases, but not as many who have befores like mine. He had a handful of patients with similar cases, and I really liked those results. I can get event pricing with him, and the consultation fee is 10,000 won. However, I really want this to be a one and done surgery, so I'm not 100% sure if I'll go with TS in the end, but I already have it booked so it's more of a why not situation. I also want to share that I received separate English consulting (once again, just to see what they would suggest as it's only the English teams that offer it, while the Korean teams do not). They provided this plan: incisional DES + ptosis correction + upper eyelid fat repositioning with the main doctor. The regular price is 9.27 mil KRW, and the promotional price is 7.8 mil KRW (if you write reviews). Two things to note: the insane price difference. The pricing I've seen on Gangnam Unni is around 6 mil to 7 mil MAX for this place. I think they exaggerate the regular price to make the promotional price seem like a better deal for foreigners. The other thing is that TS, Hyundai Aesthetics, and Luho have all suggested upper eyelid fat repositioning. Originally, I didn't think I needed it, but after analyzing my face more, I do see that my eyelids have lost some fat and have gotten a little hollow. So I predict that this will be the procedure they suggest more frequently when I consult in person. Right now, my top choice is actually Geunal, or That Day. This is the other doctor who seems nearly as experienced as the chief doctor at TS. I also like how IQ only focuses on eyes. However, I have made the difficult decision that (assuming in-person consultations confirm my top choices) if the doctors at these clinics are not available, I will not be proceeding with my surgery this trip and will come back to do it with them or TS another time instead of rushing, especially because I do not want to get ANOTHER revision on top of this. I also am wondering if I can get cantho done, because my eyes are not parallel. One eye slopes downwards, and the other eye is more neutral.

Thanks for letting me know! I just updated it. Yes, I think price transparency is important and hopefully gives people leverage in advocating for themselves when consulting.

VERY VERY LONG JUST AS A HEADS UP LOL. [Please do not post or repost anywhere. I am only posting here because of the strict measures the admins have made in an effort to stop the rampant marketing we’ve seen on other platforms. Your trust is appreciated!] Hi everyone, As promised, I wanted to do a write-up of my revision DES journey. I plan on updating it as often as possible and as frequently as possible to share my thoughts and provide transparency. For background, here is my full walkthrough of my journey with primary DES: (PLEASE READ AHEAD OF TIME) My consultation journey My current problem is this: Before DES, my monolids were more almond-shaped and elongated. After DES, my eyes became rounder and more “dolly.” The larger eye shape made my natural asymmetry more noticeable, but the DES lines themselves are also uneven. (One is higher than the other, and thicker) The eye he worked on longer is the one I’m more unhappy with: the scar/line is more obvious, the gap between the lid and crease is larger and more “sausage-y,” and the line droops downward. I’m also pragmatic about what is due to my natural anatomy. The eye I like has a more neutral tilt, so the crease ends parallel, while the other eye naturally tilts downward and the crease follows it. Because of this, I have to do my makeup differently on each eye. My goal: to lower the line while still ensuring my eyes still look big, keeping the in-out style, and evening the lines as much as possible. Ideally, I would want eyes that end neutrally or go slightly upwards, instead of having rounder, dolly eyes. (Im Bora, Irene from Red Velvet are my ideal eyes.) Based on my research, it seems like I would need to do ptosis correction again, incisional DES, and a double-line suture method. This means they try to unstick the adhesion points of the original line and connect them to the new line they make. This essentially creates two lines, but a skilled doctor can do their best to minimize this appearance and reduce scarring. There are a lot of revision DES doctors out there, but you want to make sure that you have doctors who have done similar cases as yours. For example, many people who do natural adhesion/nonincisional get revision because it loosens. This is still a much more straightforward fix than my situation. I did not bother to look at doctors who had more cases like this, who did not have as many patients with thick, fatty skin like mine. I also want to clarify that I am fluent in Korean and consulted mostly in Korean at all of these places, which is why I got (mostly) quoted lower prices than what you may see from other online reviews. For non-Korean-speaking patients, I expect that a similar case like mine may be around the 7 million won range. Based on my Gangnam Unni research, and my criteria, I narrowed it down to these clinics: Hyundai Aesthetics TS Idel Geunal (That Day) Finish Plastic Surgery I plan on getting in-person consults with all of them as well. I also did brief Kakao consults with the above, as well as Luho Marble Here is my consultation write-up: I consulted in Korean with all except for Marble and Luho. I also consulted with TS and Hyundai’s global team in English (as well as separately in Korean). This is because I realized that the Korean staff will not consult or provide any preliminary opinions and insist that you come in person. I realized that I needed to verify my own personal analysis with the opinions of the staff, and only the global teams are willing to consult. Luho As I mentioned, this is where I did my primary surgery. However, the chief doctor, Park Il, is quite well known for revision cases. I’m quite annoyed, actually, because they blew up internationally (I wonder if it was in part due to my review? haha) and the dynamic has changed. I did not really think about going back here, but I still wanted to get an opinion. I consulted with the global team, and they quoted me a whopping 8 million KRW for a fat transfer to my eyelids and incisional DES with line lowering. I did not really think about going back here, but I still wanted to get an opinion. I consulted with the global team, and they quoted me a whopping 8 million KRW for a fat transfer to my eyelids and incisional DES with line lowering. This price point is insane; I will just be straight up honest. On Gangnam Unni, you will not see anyone being quoted this high. They also told me I’d get 20% off if I booked my surgery date right now. Even after 20% off, I was so bewildered by this price gouging that I did not want to move forward. When I questioned why, they told me that this was because he’s the chief doctor and because he does not participate in any promotional events. I found this hard to believe, because I immediately saw a review on Gangnam Unni where a patient managed to book him and received event pricing. Marble I remembered last time Marble was thorough in my Kakao consultations and very kind. This was still the same. I guess they still had our chat history, as they greeted me warmly and asked me a lot of follow-up and clarifying questions, asking why I felt a certain way about my eyes and whatnot. They came back and even drew on my pics again to demonstrate their explanation. They said that due to the incisional method, there is always a risk that the eyes will look more “done” and the line will be “dark.” This is true; however, they also said that this can be reduced if I get my lines lowered. They also mentioned how my eyes just end differently, which is why one line curves downward while the other doesn’t. They said the width of the eye that bothers me (aka the one that's more sausage-y; I mentioned that there was a bigger distance) could either be due to ptosis or just how my eyelid forms, and can only be verified with an in-person consult. They were honest and said it’s probably unlikely that all of my concerns can be magically addressed, but it can be greatly improved and suggested incisional DES, ptosis correction, and line lowering, and said it would be 7.1 million before any promotions. Hyundai Aesthetics -- will be doing an in-person consult I had no idea that this clinic has been talked about for several years now in the international plastic surgery circles, to be honest. Usually, that does make me a bit wary, as I’m more hesitant towards clinics that aggressively market towards foreigners (is there a reputation among the local crowd that leads to this, etc), however, I really liked the results on Gangnam Unni and reached out. I consulted in Korean, and they provided very detailed, thoughtful responses. They said it’s not always the case that I would need to do incisional again just because I did it before (but I did not send any photos, and I’m pretty confident that I’ll need to do incisional, so this is just more for an FYI). They mentioned there’s usually availability 3 days after an in-person consult. I asked for pricing just on average for incisional revision DES + ptosis + line lowering using the double line method, and they said that if I agree to partial photos and a review, I’d qualify for event pricing starting at 1.95 million KRW. Truthfully speaking, based on my research, I expect this number to be closer to 4 million KRW once all the add-ons are included. TS Plastic Surgery -- will be doing an in-person consult To be honest, this was and is my top choice. They are extremely well known for being perhaps the clinic for revision DES, but it’s also known for being pricey (even for locals). However, my perspective is that I’m willing to pay a bit more as long as it’s not egregious, especially if it means I’ll be that much more satisfied. At the same time, they have started marketing more to the international market. The B/As were so good too, so initially I just wanted to go with them, but thought I should do more due diligence lol. One thing I didn’t like is how unfriendly the Kakao consultant was, though. They’re not necessarily unfriendly, but just to the point and a bit blunt. For example, they’re the only clinic that did not give me a quote and straight up said that it’s too difficult to give an average. (???) However, I know from reviews that it seems to be around 6.5 million KRW. I did manage to book a consult with the chief doctor, and they told me that there is a consultation fee of 20,000 won. They also told me that I don’t qualify for event pricing, but I’m not sure if it’s because I told them I’m American (they asked), or if it’s just because I asked for the chief director as the message was in the general confirmation that my consultation has been reserved. Idel Plastic Surgery -- will be doing an in-person consult I also liked this place’s B/As. They only have one doctor (the other is a dermatologist). They were pretty kind and very speedy in their responses. However, there was a bit of a back-and-forth as to getting the consultation booked because they told me that the doctor had a surgery on the date and time I was looking at and had to go to a conference after. I managed to book a slot, but it would only be for 30 minutes. I assume that’s pretty typical, but I’m kind of worried about whether there would be a long waiting period or if he’ll rush the process because he needs to go LOL. Would that be the case for the surgery too, you know? They said that there is a consultation fee of 20,000 won. They gave me a rough quote of 4-mid 5 million KRW for revision incisional DES + ptosis + line lowering via the double line method. I want to be clear that this isn’t what they suggested to me (I did not provide photos); it’s just what I’m assuming I’m most likely going to be suggested to do by most clinics. Geunal Plastic Surgery -- will be doing an in-person consult This place seems to be trying to grow internationally, but the head doctor is really famous already. Their website is broken! However, once again I liked their B/As, so I managed to add them on Kakao and reached out. They were SO fast in getting back to me, which I liked. Unfortunately, their consult will be the latest one, as they did not have time during the day I wanted to get a consultation. I’ll have to either push my potential surgery date to be after this consult, unless I find a place I like strongly enough. For here, it was mostly just making the consultation reservation. They said for line-lowering revisional DES, a rough estimate would start at around mid-3 million KRW. Finish Plastic Surgery -- will be doing an in-person consult This place is on the newer side, but the doctors have worked at another clinic before opening up their own. I have some hesitancy because of this, but I liked the results I saw on Gangnam Unni, so I consulted with them. I also appreciated how they seemed to be focusing on building up their local clientele. It seems like they’re a bit more well-known for noses, but I still wanted to at least get an in-person consult. They were very kind when I reached out to them. They told me that the approximate cost for revisional eye surgery starts at around 2.5 million KRW. Similarly, I expect this to be closer to 4 million or so, seeing how that’s around the average I’m seeing (for local pricing). They also refused to consult with photos over Kakao lol, but were very kind and told me that consults take around an hour to an hour and a half because they’re very detailed.

Hi everyone, I can't believe it's been a year since my last update. I plan on going to Korea this fall for revision DES. I will do another thorough write up about my experience and do some check ins. My nose is slightly crooked. To be honest, I can't remember if it was crooked before my nose job. I did go to an ENT a few years back in the States, and they mentioned I do have a deviated septum (which my doctor at Luho did not mention to me). However, this crookedness is very slight and is only something I notice if I look for it, if I'm in a certain angle, and so on. I have not experienced any complications, and I still am relatively satisfied with my nose. My eyes are still the exact position they were a year ago. I have to do my eyeliner a bit differently. To be honest, I'm not sure how much can be fixed with surgery. My eyes seem to just be tilted differently (one goes up, one is more neutral). However, I'd be happy if they evened out my lines and did something to make the lines look less dark, as it's really obvious to anyone who is in the plastic surgery community that I have gotten DES. Other surgeries/procedures I hope to have, though I need to figure it out: - some kind of mild lifting (debating Onda and InMode). I did InMode this year, and couldn't really tell at the time, but I think it did make a difference. I did bruise, but I was able to cover it up completely with makeup. - something to do with my worsening smile lines, but I'm not sure what yet, as I'm opposed to filler in that area. I'm debating juvelook. - perhaps touching up on my chin filler (got it in January, makes a huge difference). - removing a sun spot and some moles - really debating getting lip filler. I'm opposed to it due to the high rate of migration, but my philtrum has gotten a lot longer and I don't like my gummy smile. - masseter botox touch up - facial contouring fat injection (magic CAT injection) Once again, I do think I've gotten prettier, but I think now my face is a bit disharmonious if that makes sense. My nose is prominent (since I went from no bridge to having a bridge), and I have strong, dolly eyes (due to once again high, visible, dark crease), but overall rounder, softer features. I will keep everyone updated!

Hi everyone, It's been quite some time and I wanted to provide an update about my surgeries, especially since I feel it's quite rare within this community to see follow ups after years. Quick recap: Nose: is fine. it's definitely gone down a lot, but it seems more of a natural drop than a complication. I have not experienced any complications with it. However, I am keeping an eye out that it may happen anytime due to the silicone, and am prepared to do DCF in America for revision in the future. Eyes: I am relatively dissatisfied with the one eye I mentioned. What happened is that my eyes healed differently, and one eye is more almond shaped, and the line is slightly lower, and the other eye (the one I'm not happy about) is rounded, with a thicker line. My eyeliner needs to be slightly adjusted for both, and to me, its very obvious that my eyes are actually different shapes and sizes. I say sizes because as the round eye's line is higher, my eye has become bigger. However, I will say with makeup and on certain days (lol), the difference isn't really that discernable. Obviously though to me, it is. My eyes were always a bit different in size, but when I was monolidded, the difference wasn't this big as the shape was the same (almond eyes). I plan on getting revision DES within the next 2 years back in Korea, looking for specialists who are skilled with my eyes as now it's become a bit more complicated. My eyes are still a bit fatty, which contributes to my line looking dark (and as a result, obvious that I got work done). While in Korea, I also plan on getting other treatments done (ulthera/shurink, filler, botox, fat dissolving injections), and will write up a review as well. I am actually unopposed to working with Luho, but only if I can get the main doctor, Park Il as he is very skilled with my situation. I will look for other doctors as well and am looking to do some preliminary research. I also want to state that I do think I have become prettier than I was pre-surgery. I don't think my eyes, despite its unevenness and my qualms, have made me uglier or wish I didn't get the work in the first place. Happy to answer any questions, but will not share photos out of privacy concerns.

Hi everyone, it's been almost 2 years since I got my surgery. I want to consider getting rib or some natural way of doing my nose, just because there is still always a risk with silicone. Nothing has happened to it, but I still experience the occasional "phantom pain" that I mentioned before. Since revision, especially with rib or some natural method is so expensive, I will continue to observe and save. However, I am happy with the way my nose looks, so on the aesthetic side, I do not have any real concerns. I am still torn on getting my eyes revised. I am leaning towards doing so, especially if I'm going to do my nose again. I am pretty sure the line in of itself is completely uneven, so even though my eyes were naturally not the same size (one bigger than the other), this has just exaggerated this. My double eyelid scar on the right eye as well is very obvious and prominent when I close my eyes. I am not completely bothered by this, as I've just sort of accepted it, but it is something I am considering in the future. I would only go to Luho again for my eyes if I had the chance to work with the head doctor, who is famous for revisions, and is skilled with fatty lids. Because of the fact that it is a revision and also because I still have thick skin, I will have to take my time looking for a doctor who has a diverse portfolio with my case because I cannot do incisional.

Hi everyone, It's been a year now since my surgery, and I am happy to update. The remaining fat on my forehead, which I would estimate to be around 5-10%, looks very natural and is definitely an upgrade to my previous forehead. If it goes down more, I may consider topping it up. My right eye as mentioned before, is still uneven. Right now I am under the impression that it is just going to be bigger. As I have thick skin, and I did incision method, I will continue to be patient, but am starting to consider getting revisional eyelid surgery on the right eye only so that it better matches the left, which I feel came out more naturally. When I close my eyes, the line is very prominent. This is a good telltale sign of if someone's double eyelids are natural or not, though it's not always the case. The line still remains very prominent, whereas someone with natural lids or nonincisional, the line will be very faint and almost invisible. This is something I don't quite like either, but I have decided to wait until next year to watch and decide whether revision is necessary. My nose for the most part is what I like a lot. The side profile is very natural, yet has a nice curve, and I love my side profile now. The tip is still a bit bulbous, but once again, I have heard it takes up to two years for thick skin to deswell. I have noticed my nose does get bigger/puffier when I eat a lot of salty foods, or haven't drank as much water, so my nose is also something I am observing. My incision scar at the base is not obvious at all, and my alarplasty scars are very faint. I was not very consistent with putting on scar gel, so if you are more consistent than I am, I am sure it will go away completely. My nose is rock hard however, and I am still very careful to not let anything hit my nose. Sometimes when I put on a shirt too fast or aggressively, the incision point at the base still feels a bit numb. However, lately I've been getting something is something I can best describe as phantom pain on the left side of my nose. I have found that sleeping slightly upright helps, and it is something that comes and goes. It doesn't exactly hurt, which is why I feel reluctant to call it pain, but it feels like something that is bothering me. I am worried that this may mean something more severe, like an infection, but it doesn't feel hot, nor do I smell anything bad. I also do not sense any sort of bleeding. It just started occurring, so I am worried. I will keep watching out and writing here in case anything big happens. If anyone has any recommendations regarding this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Hi! I'm a bit late to the promised 3 month update, but here we go. My eyes are a lot more natural now. I had an issue where the inner part of my incision line was raised, but it went away on its own. However, the eye that took longer to work on is still more swollen than the other eye, so I can notice the unevenness. It's not bothering me TOO much right now, as I'm still early on in the healing process (roughly 4 months), but it is still annoying. Overall, I'm really happy with the actual line: I got the in out line I wanted! I still have some mild ptosis (I can feel myself using my eyebrows sometimes still, but I can't tell if it's out of habit), but even with the uneven swelling, my actual eyes are more evenly sized and I'm straining a lot less to open my eyes. My nose dropped, but I'm still pretty happy. It's definitely not as high or dolly as it was in the beginning, but I was looking for a more natural nose. I will state that inside of my nostril there was a red spot that didn't go away for a while, but I had no pain. I clean my nose gently with a qtip as I can no longer use anything bigger to pick my nose (lol), so that might be why. I have not noticed any adverse effects to drinking or anything, but my nose tip is still definitely swollen and I do wake up with a more swollen nose. Right now, I still feel the need to contour my nose because of how swollen the tip is still. The fat graft to my forehead died a lot, but there's still more volume than what I had in the beginning. If I get the chance to go back, I would get a top up. I feel like the less round forehead also contributes to the less dolly side profile. My chin filler is basically gone, I'll probably go get a little bit injected again next month as I really liked how it looked. I have not experienced any side effects and I'm very happy with my results so far!

Hi! I’m glad you enjoyed the update. The clinic was called Point Up Clinic (right next to Pop) and it was an event on Gangnam Unni that was called 더불붓기케어, or Double Swelling Care. It was advertised specifically as a service to help with post OP swelling, so the lymphatic drainage massage, etc all helped. They didn’t really say anything about GU or having to leave a review for them, but I still left one (literally one sentence lmao) as Gangnam Unni kind of encourages you to do so when you sign up for an event. The cost of the service was 123,000 won if I remember correctly, and it was a bit higher because I added on the bruise care. I had semi long yellow bruising down my face in the center right next to my nose, as well as a tiny dark purple bruise on my right eye’s outer corner (looked like bad eyeliner LOL), but for me this was a bit more severe as I had no bruising on my face at all until towards cast removal day. The deswelling treatment alone was advertised as 79,000 won if I remember correctly. It made me feel happier and more cheerful as it was basically just a really nice facial that emphasized deswelling LOL, but definitely not something I would say greatly contributed to my recovery process. I took bromelain on and off for two weeks before my surgery, and to be honest I have no clue if it did anything. I wouldn’t say I’m the type to bruise easily, and I also don’t swell up for a long period of time. (Ex. The puffiness in my face right when I wake up usually settles down relatively fast). I walked an insane amount everyday, I basically took this as an opportunity to see Korea as it was my first time going in nearly a decade. I think I’d walk minimum close to 10,000 steps (~5 miles) everyday, and this wasn’t intentional! As I just shopped and traveled, I naturally accumulated that many steps. I think it also helped that the area I was in was really steep. I did not take any other vitamins. I tried to drink more water both pre OP and I’d say for around 2 days post OP, but I don’t really drink a lot of water (it’s so bad lol) and I’m going to try to up my water intake as I naturally eat a lot of spicy and salty food. I’m still sleeping with a neck pillow and start off sleeping upright (I slide off a lot throughout the night), and I think I might sleep with the neck pillow indefinitely as it’s preventing me from fully turning to my side when I sleep, as I’m normally a side sleeper. Hopefully I can break the habit eventually.

Firstly, I will note that I am relatively fluent in Korean. However, here are some things that I compiled to make your trip easier, both surgery related and other random tidbits that I personally didn't see online! Note that some of these things are COVID/quarantine specific, so some advice may seem/become outdated. Note that I haven't had any bone shaving/cutting surgery, so I can't give tips regarding those things. Some people have reached out to me thinking I got zygoma or vline, etc, and I just want to state that I have not gotten any of those procedures and will not get them in the future either. - Post OP review (Primary DES/Rhino/Forehead FG) - Consultation Journey QUARANTINE TIPS First, book your airbnb in advance ( a month ahead if you can). I was able to save the PDF with the address (which was disclosed to me in advance because I booked it so early), which was massively helpful for filling out the quarantine forms as I had an address to put down. I did have to mention that I would be quarantining in a government facility, but it wasn’t annoying at all. Also, before you book, make sure to ask the host if they’re okay with being your point of contact at the airport, especially if you’re landing at an odd hour. I landed at 5 AM, which meant my clinic would be closed, so I made sure to ask my host before I booked the trip and also sent her a reminder the day before. Don’t take my word for it, but it seems that the quarantine rate is 1.68 mil. I budgeted 2 mil just in case, but it seems that 1.68 is the standard. I used the service CallnVan to book a private taxi out of quarantine as I was on a time crunch and wanted to get out ASAP, and it was very simple to use. The Google Translate works fine on their website, but they do not disclose the driver’s information until 24-48 hours before your drive. If you need to disclose that information to your hotel earlier (like I did), you can contact them and ask to have that information sent a bit earlier. You pay directly to the taxi driver, and they prefer cash but they also take card. TRANSPORTATION Secondly, I don’t really think it’s super important to book extremely close to your clinic, though of course that would be the most convenient. My airbnb was in Gangnam but a different neighborhood, so it was roughly ~25-30 minutes to get to my clinic. I think as long as you’re within 25-30 minutes away from your clinic, you’ll be fine. However, it didn’t really bother me and I got around just fine. Plus, it’s an easy way to get your steps in. Also, it’s incredibly easy to navigate the transportation system in Korea. I personally used Naver Maps, but I know a lot of people also like Kakao Maps. The taxis are also easy to call. You can just hail one from the street (if it says 빈차, that means the car is empty and you can raise your hand for it to come to you), but you can also call using Kakao Taxi and pay with your Tmoney card (that you can recharge at convenience stores or subway stops, and it can only be recharged with cash). Obviously, you will need a Korean phone number for this. THINGS TO BUY Buy a bucket hat! If you’re getting fat grafting, buy one with a huge brim so that even when it’s angled, it’s partially covering your face. I brought one and bought one while I was in Korea, and really liked the one I bought (though it’s ugly af) because the brim had a wire that I could use to adjust the front, which made it much easier to hide my eyes. Buy or bring some cleansing pads so that your skin is still looking nice as you recover. I went to Olive Young before my surgery and bought the cheapest blotting sheets, cleansing pads from Round Lab (highly recommend), and cotton pads to use to put on my toner and lotion. I only had one pimple that formed (on my nose), and the cleansing pads felt really great! I also bought qtips and used them to apply ointment, clean my nose, and also to clean my eyes from any gunk in the morning. The best thing I bought were reusable straws from Daiso. I had a couple days before my surgery date to look around Seoul, and bought a 5 pack of reusable metal straws from Daiso for roughly 2 dollars USD. It’s incredibly helpful, especially when you shouldn’t really be looking down. For the first couple days, it was hard to clean my mouth after brushing my teeth so I literally had to fill a cup with water and suck it up through the straw to spit the toothpaste out. Disgusting, but no one else has talked about this so I thought it would be helpful to mention. Also, when I went (late May-mid June), there were quite a few days where it rained. My airbnb had a lot of umbrellas, but keep that in mind and pack some light long sleeves and jackets, as well as big loose pants and long dresses, especially if you’re getting fg! I only brought one jacket and really regretted it. It's also disgustingly humid. I powered through and still went out nearly every day, but if you'd rather get your steps in at night, you can do that too. BUY GAUZE AND SURGICAL TAPE. I completely forgot to and constantly woke up throughout the night my first night because blood kept dripping down my nose and I straight up looked monsterous. These will save your life the first few days of rhino. GENERAL ADVICE It is NOT true that everyone is walking around in bandages, I honestly don’t know why people say that. I’ve seen two people total with bandaids, and both times they were at the lobby to get to the elevator to the clinic. Some people may react, but just know that you’re never going to see them and you need to get your steps in to deswell anyways. Most don’t really care though. I was a little self conscious since I was so swollen, but if you just take in stride no one else will care, as a lot of people get PS here and if you stay in Gangnam, there are tons of clinics, so they’re familiar with swollen faces haha. I stopped wearing a hat once I hit the two week mark, and it was obvious I got my eyes done but no one cared. GET A KOREAN SIM CARD. DON’T get KT’s, as it was incredibly annoying as it doesn’t work for authentication, meaning you can’t use majority of food delivery apps. If you can speak Korean, you can still directly call the restuarant and ask to have them deliver, but it’s obviously much more convenient to just be able to order delivery. Plus, they have way more coupons and deals online. You also have to have a phone number to make reservations at restaurants or to book your hair washing, plus nowadays you need to put down a number in case there was a confirmed case of COVID at a place you visited. I ended up using my phone # and calling way more frequently than I thought I would need to (I had to add more minutes actually), so I was really grateful I decided to get a SIM card instead of a pocket wifi. If you can speak or know just some words in Korean, a lot of people will appreciate it. They know you’re a foreigner, and they really like it as it’s seen as a sign of effort. I went to go get my hair washed at Juno Hair and had a very pleasant experience as they were incredibly kind and we were able to chat! They even said they wished they could see my face 2-3 months from now LOOL. Honestly, service here in Korea is really top notch and all the people I’ve met so far makes me wish I could stay here longer. You technically can get by without knowing a single word of Korean, but knowing some common words will help you out a lot! You can use Papago and endic.naver.com to look up pronunciation and more words that you think you’ll end up using frequently. 결제 = pay 현금 = cash 사후관리/사후케어/애프터케어 = aftercare 예약 = reservation 성함 = name 서명 = signature 호박즙 = pumpkin juice 쌍수 = double eyelid surgery 코수술 = nose job 무보형물 = no foreign implant 보형물 = foreign implant 여권 = passport

Hi everyone, I have gotten my procedures done at Luho and posted a very extensive 2 week diary. I will not be sharing B&A photos, and prices stated in this thread are accurate to what I paid. I will state that I most likely got these prices because I was able to communicate with the consultant (who is the person you initially negotiate with) in full Korean, and my nose and eyes were relatively straight forward. As you can see, I was initially looking to do my nose and eyes at separate clinics. However, I was thrown off by JT's consultants as they were pushy and not willing to negotiate, and after reading more of Dr. Kim (Luho)'s reviews and seeing more B&As, I thought they were a bit more diverse whereas I personally thought JT's noses seemed to follow a certain style. However, I think both of them do lovely noses so I am not saying one clinic is better than the other, but rather that Luho's aesthetics aligned better with mine. Thanks for following me through this journey!