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MKGS 123..hope this helps...My sister and I traveled from different parts of the world to have a full facelift done by Dr. Cha at this clinic last year. We had a paid Zoom consultation with Dr. Cha before the surgery, during which he confidently told us we would “look 10 years younger.” That simply did not happen. What we received was minimal, disappointing, and not worth the pain or the cost. If you're considering minor treatments, perhaps this clinic might be suitable. But if you're planning something as major as a full facelift, I strongly recommend looking elsewhere. A facelift isn’t minor — it’s invasive and expensive. It’s not something you can (or should) do repeatedly. We trusted this clinic with our faces, our money, and our one chance — and they failed us. Like other reviewer such as Suzanne Frazier, we were met with excuses and avoidance of responsibility. we were told the same excuse given to others: " call us and we will do what is necessary". I mean..we did? and we get NOWHERE. Neither of us had the opportunity to consult directly with the doctor after the procedure, despite multiple WhatsApp messages expressing our dissatisfaction, we received no direct response or follow-up from the doctor. This lack of accountability and direct communication was incredibly unprofessional, frustrating and deeply disappointing. We had a few follow-up discussions with the staff — specifically Isabel and Anna. We showed before-and-after photos and clearly expressed that we saw no visible difference. Isabel told us to wait six months, Despite my doubt that 6 months will have marked differences, I waited. after 6 months, we mentioned this again, the only response — relayed through Isabel — was: “Dr. Cha sees the change.” Of course he would say that — but no explanation was offered as to where or what that change was. Friends who didn’t know we had any procedures done were shocked to hear we’d had full facelifts — they hadn’t noticed a thing. Those who did know simply said, “nothing looks different.” My sister had the exact same experience. When we raised this, the clinic gave us a generic response: “Results vary depending on factors like weight gain or lifestyle changes.” But neither of us had gained weight or changed our routines. So that explanation felt like another way to dismiss our concerns. The experience was also marred by concerns about hygiene and transparency: (1)The recovery room was dirty, with visible blood stains and dust on the beds and blankets. I waited for my procedure in the recovery room ( my sister went in first). I immediately had concerns about the clinic’s hygiene standards, but by then, it was too late to turn back. (2) We were quoted different prices for the exact same procedure, simply because we live in different countries (they hadn’t realized we were sisters). (3) The staff actively discouraged us from talking to other clients. When we spoke to someone in our native language whom we met when we return to get our stitches removed, Isabel quickly ushered us away. Why? To prevent us from comparing prices? Results? Possibly both. This experience was painful — physically, emotionally, and financially. Dr. Cha overpromised and underdelivered. For the price we paid and the trust we gave, this clinic truly failed us. Their website claims: “Mina Plastic Surgery is a leading clinic in Seoul, known for its commitment to providing the highest quality care and results.” My foot! That couldn’t be further from our experience. Please, do your due diligence before trusting your face to this clinic. What they promise online and what they deliver in reality are worlds apart. plse also go :https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/11/01/plastic-surgery-in-south-korea.html. someone had a similar experience ..no AFTER care. which you need esp if unhappy with result

@sufferinginub welcome, how's your planning and journey going, which procedures are you planning to have?

Hello everyone i will be undergoing rhinoplasty and blepharoplasty surgery soon at 345 plsatic surgery clinic and i'd like to write whole experience here to share with everyone

Hello admin, I'm going to korea this weekend and will undergo rhinoplasty surgery next week, please add me to the group chat as i want to exchange experiences and talk about my post surgery results kakao id: komorebiwa

Welcome good to have you here! Why don't you kick off your own thread, and let folks know where you're at and where you need some help, and folks can chime in.

Hi i'm planning to undergo rhinoplasty and blepharoplasty surgery in a week and i'm doing my research here

@DeeDee when i first started researching, i kept falling for the pretty websites and high follower counts but then realized it's all marketing. like @OppaStatus mentioned, making sure the surgeon is board-certified and actually the one doing your surgery is huge. not all but some places have someone else do the consult and then you're passed off to a random surgeon on the day, when you get knocked out (ghost doctors). another red flag i've seen people mention is when they push combo procedures you didn’t even ask about or try to rush you into booking during the consult. or when they dodge technical questions or give vague answers about risks and recovery. def trust your gut on stuff like that for zygoma and jaw surgeries, i also heard to check if they do CT scans and surgical sims before giving a plan. avoid clinics that schedule like three surgeries back to back with the same doc. quality over quantity for real which procedure are you leaning toward most right now? curious if you've ruled any out already too

hey! i haven’t done double jaw myself but i've been deep diving into it for a while now cuz i was considering it for both bite issues + aesthetics, so i can share what i’ve picked up from ppl on here and reddit/kakao chats for clinics ppl seem really split on which ones are good. some swear by the “big name” places like ID, TFD, or Girin, but others warn they can be super factory-like and overcharge. the more boutique places tend to be more attentive but can be harder to find solid reviews for unless you dig thru kakao chats or follow someone’s journey. also saw mixed things about Regen for jaw, more people seem to go there for other stuff consults most clinics will do a CT scan and facial analysis, and from what i heard they usually bring up additional things to “balance” your face (like chin or zygoma stuff) even if you just went in for jaw. kinda feels like upsell-y but in some cases it’s legit needed to avoid looking unbalanced after surgery. you’ll wanna go to a few places before deciding for sure cost anywhere from 13mil to 25mil krw depending on how complex it is and if you need overnight hospital stay, braces, etc. also factor in separate fees for post-op care like deswelling, hotel stay, meds, and food (you’re on liquids for a while). some clinics include aftercare in their packages, others don’t and it adds up. ppl on reddit said one of the more hidden costs was getting your bite fixed afterwards if the result isn’t perfect, so keep that in mind recovery not gonna lie it looks brutal for the first 1-2 weeks. massive swelling, drooling, pain, can’t eat, can’t talk properly. most people say the worst is over by week 3 but full swelling takes like 6 months to a year to go down. bruising varies, some have it bad, others not so much. ppl who were happy with their results said it was worth it, but also mentally tough for a while tips book your hotel for longer than you think just in case. bring a neck pillow, lip balm, baby wipes, and straws you can cut to fit your mouth better lol. also like...don’t go alone if you can avoid it, some people regretted not having someone there to help esp the first few days. and don’t rush the decision, jaw is serious stuff and fixing a bad result later is way harder than waiting a bit longer to find the right surgeon feel free to DM or reply if you want help finding kakao group chats, they’ve been suuuper helpful for real-time info hope this helps!!

Wow, this is so helpful. I'm just intrigued by the level of analysis.

Totally get what you mean. The Korean plastic surgery scene is full of noise, especially with all the paid reviews, astroturfing, and recycled blog content. It’s smart that you’re approaching this cautiously. For double jaw and v-line work, the most important thing is making sure the actual surgeon doing your case is a board-certified oral and maxillofacial specialist, not just a general plastic surgeon. A lot of clinics have one face doctor doing consultations, but someone else steps in on surgery day (ghost doc situation). The best way to avoid this is to ask directly who will be performing your surgery and request the doctor’s full name and credentials in writing. Also, ask if they’ll be present during all parts of the operation. More legit OMFS surgeons would be places like EverM, TFD, and EU. Out of these though I have seen the best results come from Dr. Yoon at EverM. From the list you mentioned (JK, JW, Banobagi, Wonjin, AB, Nana), all are well-known but heavily marketed. Some of them have strong in-house content teams, which can create the illusion of credibility. Doesn’t always mean they’re bad, but it does mean you need to look deeper than the surface. For zygoma, chin, and jaw surgeries, check if the clinic offers 3D CT scans and surgical simulations, it’s a good sign they take planning seriously. Also, avoid anywhere that tries to push multiple surgeries in one go without a clear reason. Happy to share more if you narrow down which procedures you’re leaning toward or if you want names of surgeons that are known in the local expat or agency circuit. There are legit ones, but they don’t always have the flashiest Instagrams.

Hi everyone, I’m seriously considering getting double jaw surgery in Korea and would love to hear from anyone who has gone through it. I’m especially curious about: • Which clinics or surgeons you recommend (and which to avoid) • What the consultation process was like • How much it cost, including any hidden or aftercare fees • What recovery was like, such as pain, swelling, and downtime • Any tips you wish you knew beforehand I’m open to both medical and aesthetic reasons. Just trying to gather as much real insight as I can before making a decision. Thanks in advance for any advice or experience you can share.

@GawdMike This is one of the most amazing things ever. I can't tell you enough how useful this is to help people. And what a great contribution to the community!

Hi everyone. For context, I'm a Singaporean guy. I've always wanted double-eyelid surgery (DES) + Rhinoplasty, and I started doing my PS research back in Dec 2024 in preparation for my trip to Seoul in Mar 2025. I remember feeling so overwhelmed by the amount of information available when first starting out that research became such a daunting process, so I decided to provide a simple framework for those who are just starting out in their PS research. Additionally, I will share my online consultation findings (+ price quotation charts) from following this research process. Section 1's target audience is newbies. If you've been on this journey for a while, feel free to skip to Section 2 to check out the prices and online consult findings. Contents Step-by-step guide to the PS Research Process Part A: Preliminary Research Part B: Narrowing down your clinic/surgeon options Part C - Book your F2F Consultations Part D - Some Generic Advise Part E: Useful posts that helped me tremendously in my research Online consultations with 13 clinics + Price Quotation Charts Part A: Double Eyelid Surgery Online Quotations Part B: Rhinoplasty Online Quotations Part C - Online Consult Impressions Part D - Full Dataset Section 1: Step-by-step guide to the PS Research Process How should you go about researching and preparing for your Plastic Surgery procedures? There's no right way to go about it, but having a framework in place would cut through the noise substantially, so here's the process I took: (Part A: Preliminary research) Research Desired procedures: What procedures do you want/need? Procedures can be broken down into many sub-categories. During consult, surgeon may recommend these, so it's good to understand them beforehand. Double-eyelid surgery (DES) Incisional and non-incisional methods Type of eye line (in-line, in-outline, semi-outline, outline) Ptosis correction (to correct droopy eyelids) Canthoplasty (upper, lateral, medial/epi, lower) Rhinoplasty (nose) Open vs closed method Sub-procedures: nose bridge enhancement, tip plasty, alarplasty, osteotomy, septoplasty) Materials for nose bridge (silicone, fascia, own/donor rib cartilage) Materials for tip plasty (ear/septal cartilage, own/donated rib cartilage) Pros & cons/risks of each option (different materials have diff tradeoffs - e.g. silicone bridge gives a better appearance, but small chance of infection) Risks associated with each procedure Estimated costs of each procedure Recovery periods - for you to plan your travel & leave dates around Research Desired outcomes: What high-level outcomes do you want to achieve? Eyes: unevenness? Get rid of tired/unfriendly appearance? Reveal more pupil to look more awake? Nose: more defined/sharper tip? Higher bridge? Smaller width? Gather online reference pics: gather online pictures of celebrities/idols whose features fit the desired outcomes that you want to achieve. Be optimistic but also realistic about your expectations. The surgeon will ask for your reference pics during online/f2f consult. Have them ready, saved in a folder and categorized nicely into eyes/nose pics. After researching your desired procedures and desired outcomes, you'll be able to make an informed decision on the sub-procedure you need to achieve your desired outcomes For eyes, you'll need to decide the type of eye-line. Surgeon would also recommend based on your facial structure, but have an answer in your back pocket. For nose, you'll need to decide on which sub-procedure is appropriate for you, which materials to use. This can be used as a sanity check against the surgeon's recommendations. You do not want to be caught off-guard if the surgeon recommends unnecessary procedures (e.g. osteotomy, but your nose is already narrow) (Part B: Narrowing down your clinic/surgeon options) Research Doctors & Shortlist clinics: this is the most time-consuming part of the research process. Gather B&A reference pics: review pictures of work done by the doctors - whether a surgeon is able to deliver the results you want would most likely be the single biggest deciding factor for you to decide whether you want to consult with a clinic Check review apps (such as Gangnam Unni) to look for before & after cases that fit your facial profile, whose results you like. This will give you an idea of what is achievable by which surgeon, based on similar facial structure to yours. Start building a list - name of clinic, surgeon, area of speciality, etc Screenshot/save the B&A images and document them well. Check reviews and ratings Reviews: in-depth reviews on forums/apps (like Purseforum/Beauty Hacker/Gangnam Unni) will give you a glimpse into the professionalism and attitude of specific surgeons, whether they have a pre-defined style that they try to replicate on everyone, whether they're highly specialized in something but weak in other things, whether they're patient and willing to listen to your needs and customize the plan to cater to your desired outcomes. Reviews also reveal the professionalism of the staff at the clinic, the environment, etc, but these may be secondary considerations. Ratings: I checked Gangnam Unni, Google, and Naver maps star ratings. Take these numbers with a pinch of salt, as reviews can be bought/manipulated. However, use these ratings to weed out the clinics with highly negative reviews that are legitimate complains. Shortlist Online consult clinics Based on B&A pictures and reviews/ratings, shortlist a handful of clinics that you wish to reach out to for online consult. As online consults are way less time consuming than F2F consults, feel free to shortlist as many clinics/surgeons as your time allows. Generic advise One key piece of advise I received was to prioritize research on surgeons over clinics, since the surgeon will be the one performing the procedure. Sources like Gangnam Unni (app), Purseforum, Beauty Hacker, Babitalk, Sungeyesa provide reviews of work done by specific surgeons. Ensure surgeon is board certified (Korean Association of Plastic Surgeons - KAPS) Google selected clinics to ensure they're not blacklisted Avoid factory clinics as they are more profit-driven, less personable, and have the power/resources to suppress negative reviews and pay for positive reviews. As a general benchmark, I consider a clinic with >=10 surgeons to be a factory clinic. Another telltale sign of factory clinics is that they pop up as the top results when you do generic Google searches like "best plastic surgery clinic korea". These clinics have big budgets to do heavy advertising, and the costs will be covered by inflated prices, esp to foreigners. Do Online Consultation: reach out to the clinics you shortlisted based on your research in the previous step to ask for your target surgeon's recommended procedures and price quotations Prepare 3 things: Have your reference pics ready (both online celebrities and surgeon's before & after work) to send the clinic to show your desired outcomes Have your own pics ready (front profile, 45degree, side profiles, top-down and bottom-up pics if doing nose) to send the clinic to allow surgeon to analyze your facial structure for tailored recommendations Draft your online consult message so that you can copy-paste in Whatsapp over & over (together with your reference/own pics) Sample online consultation template: Hi, I am planning to visit South Korea in {insert date} and am interested in undergoing {insert procedure}. Both would be my first cosmetic procedures. I would appreciate your guidance on the following: Surgery Details Double Eyelid Surgery: Desired outcomes {insert desired outcomes} Given my desired outcomes, what procedures do you recommend? What double eyelid line is suitable for my eyes? (in-line, in-outline, semi-outline, out-line) Rhinoplasty: Desired outcomes {insert desired outcomes} Given my desired outcomes, what procedures do you recommend? If required, what cartilage options do you recommend (e.g., septal, ear, rib)? If I choose to do the surgeries separately, which one should be done first? Cost and Packages What is the estimated cost for each procedure and the combined package? Does the cost include: Consultation fees? Pre-surgery tests (e.g., bloodwork)? Post-surgery care and medications? Are there any promotions, packages, or discounts for {insert date}? Logistics How long is the recovery period for each surgery? Are interpretation services available for non-Korean speakers? Thank you for your time and assistance. I look forward to your response. My Information Full name: Date of birth: Nationality: Contact number: Surgery History: Desired consultation & surgery dates: (Part C - Book your F2F Consultations) Choose among shortlisted clinics for in-person consultations: from B1 (B&A pics, reviews & ratings) and B2 (recommended procedures, price quotations), you will have sufficient information to decide which surgeons/clinics you want to have F2F consult with. I took a blended approach of 4 factors to select the clinics. Surgeon's B&A Pics: as I mentioned, probably the single most important factor. Is the surgeon's track record for your desired procedures good? Do you like the style of the work they deliver? Price quotation: is the price quoted for individual procedures reasonable? How does it compare to market averages? Any promos available? Surgeon's recommendations: are you comfortable with the surgeon's online consult recommendations? Did they give personalized recommendations based on your unique facial structure, or is their online consult response more generic copy-paste stuff? Are their recommendations in-line with your expectations of what you need/want? Are they recommending procedures which you think are unnecessary? Reviews and Ratings: covered above - read reviews/ratings to get a sense of doctor/clinic's level of professionalism, attitude towards patients, aftercare standards, etc. Take positive star ratings with a pinch of salt. Be wary of negative ratings - look out for legitimate complaints and use them to weed out the clinics/surgeons with too many red flags. Book your appointments for F2F consultation with selected clinics State clearly the name of the doctor that you intend to consult with, for which procedure. If you are unsure, you can check Gangnam Unni or with the clinic themselves. Given how important of a decision this is (it's your face card after all), it makes sense to invest more time upfront in choosing the right surgeon. Therefore, I suggest booking at least 3 consultations a day, across 2 days, to do f2f consults. To maximize efficiency, save all the shortlisted clinics into a list on Naver maps (you'll be using this over Google maps in Korea). Categorize them into cluster A, B, C and so on, based on proximity. Schedule your consultations in a way that minimizes travel time i.e. Day 1: have 3 consults with clinics in cluster A, Day 2: another 3 consults with clinics in cluster B/C. You get the drift. The recommendation here is to space out your consultations with min of 2-hour intervals. Accounting for waiting time, delays, travel time (if the route is unoptimized), I would personally feel more comfortable with 2.5 to 3 hour intervals between consults. Look up the opening hours of clinics beforehand - most close earlier on Saturdays (around 4-5pm), and don't work on Sundays. (Part D - Generic Advise) This section is pretty standard stuff you'd expect from preparing for a trip, just for completeness's sake. Prepare for F2F consultation Prepare a list of questions to ask the doctor during your F2F consultation Prepare a notepad to take notes Prepare your photos (B&A pics, reference pics) to show surgeon in person Price negotiations: another poster suggested to never accept the first offer. A common practise nowadays seems to be for the clinic reps to quote ridiculously jacked up prices first, ask you for your budget, then make a better offer that accommodates your budget, so that you feel like you are getting a good deal. Neat psychological trick that is probably widely used. Logistics Book accommodations near the clinics in the Gangnam district to reduce commute and make your life easier. Agoda/AirBnB has decent deals. Buy winter clothing...Korea is cold in this period. Figure out the payment plan - change a huge amount of cash or to use credit card? In fact, I need to do more research on this. Would really appreciate some advise on this, as some clinics offer 10% discount if you pay in cash, but some give up to 7% VAT refund if you pay with credit card. What do people typically do? Option 1: convert a boatload of cash and just pay with cash Option 2: convert to KRW using apps like Revolut/Transferwise, then pay with app's virtual CC at the clinic Option 3: simply pay with credit card issued by your home country's bank Consider hiring a translator - although many clinics have in-house translators, they may be working in the interest of the clinic. A good hired translator will not only help convey your desired outcomes to the doctor clearly, they may also be able to help you negotiate fair prices. Recommended time to go Korea Someone did an excellent in-depth post (Best time to visit Korea) on the peak periods to avoid and the best months to go. (Part E: Useful posts that helped tremendously during my research) Primary Nose and Primary Eyes in-person consultations at 13 clinics My consultation journey for DES + primary rhinoplasty (Wannabe, Cocoline, Dr Jin, etc) My Experience Getting Plastic Surgery in South Korea Rhinoplasty guide by Hyndai Aesthetics K Couture's guide to seoul plastic surgery The Ultimate Plastic Surgery Clinic guide in Seoul, Korea Primary DES journey (shortlist, f2f consult and recovery) + Rhinoplasty (Nose tip) Best time to visit Korea Currently, this is where I'm at...patiently waiting for my trip to start, wrapping up the final preparations. That concludes this section. I may post more updates after my trip begins, to share about the F2F consultations, thoughts on the doctors/clinics, and surgery/recovery process, etc. Section 2: Online Consult with 13 clinics + Price Quotation Charts Now, on to Section 2. This section covers my findings from Section 1, Part B2: Online Consult, and Part C1: how I finalized shortlisted clinics for F2F consults. I will post the quotation charts first, then provide the detailed table with full breakdown of the procedure recommendations and quotations I received with these 13 clinics. I reached out to these clinics for online consultation in late Dec 2024, so adjust your expectations accordingly, depending on when you are reading my post. Final prices in these charts are presented after cleaning up the data - adjusted for VAT/currency, some assumptions were also made if the breakdown wasn't clear (e.g. clinic quoted lump sum, I deducted the extra procedures to arrive at just the DES + Ptosis bits). I will include full raw dataset in table format if you want to analyze . It contains the detailed breakdown of the recommendations and prices that every clinic gave me. (Part A: Double Eyelid Surgery Online Quotations) Chart 1: DES Prices for Incisional & Non-Incisional + Ptosis Correction Some clinics recommended only incisional/non-incisional DES, while others gave quotes for both and left the final plan TBD after F2F consult. Zero means the clinic did not recommend the unquoted procedure. However, one thing in common is that almost all clinics recommended ptosis correction. I guess it is clear to everyone that my eyes look like they need more opening strength... Average price of incisional DES + Ptosis correction (from 5 quotations): 2.99m KRW Average price of non-incisional DES + Ptosis correction (from 7 quotations): 2.31m KRW Chart 2: Price of Epicanthoplasty Some clinics also recommended epicanthoplasty, so I took the breakdown from their quotation and charted this recommendation as well. Average price of epicanthoplasty (from 7 quotations): 0.9m KRW (Part B: Rhinoplasty Online Quotations) Chart 3: Price of Rhinoplasty I took the price quotations of all clinics, extracted the most common denominator in terms of recommended procedures (silicone bridge implant, tipplasty, using donor rib) and charted the quotations above. Obviously, some clinics have their own additional recommendations, but only the common recommendations can be analyzed in a comparable manner. The outlier here is First Button, because they went all out in their recommendations (gave 3 different options), as well as their prices (lol). Here's the breakdown: First Button Silicone bridge, donor rib Silicone bridge: 5-6k USD + 2kUSD for donated rib, Tipplasty - septal cartilage First Button Silicone bridge, own rib Silicone bridge + rib tip: 9k USD First Button Rib bridge, own rib Rib bridge + rib tip: 11k USD Average price of Rhinoplasty (from 12 quotations - excluded First Button as an outlier): 6.3m KRW (Part C - Online Consult Impressions) The following part is about my impressions after doing online consult with the clinic. Note that the online consultation requests are usually handled by staff, so their behavior and performance is not representative of the skills/attitude/professionalism of the surgeon. However, if the impression/vibe you get from online consult is too negative, it speaks volumes about the overall professionalism and service attitude of the clinic's staff, which would be an aggravating factor when it comes to choosing F2F consult targets. JT: very short and concise recommendation provided by Dr Kim. I would have preferred if the Dr gave a more detailed and personalized online consult. They have in-house translators, and provide taxi service home after the surgery Luho: online consult was concise but also covered most of the bases. Refused to answer follow up questions until F2F consult. Eight PS: gave a very detailed response to my online consult enquiry, answering my questions point by point. Recommendations felt personalized and not copy-paste. Good impression. Zestar: somewhat detailed response to follow up. Answered my online consult enquiry point-by-point. Recommendations were quite high level, with no rationale given on why specific procedures were recommended. Respect: Pretty detailed online consult. Offered treatment plan in a conversational manner, which was the just the doctor/consultant casually throwing shade on my facial features. I'm not salty but rather amused. Doc has a poor command of English, and I'm unsure if there is in-house translator. Poor online ratings, though no details why. Maybe not foreigner friendly? Grand PS: clinic ignored my online consult enquiries for a full day. Very short response with copy paste recommendations and prices. Ignored most of my other questions. ARC: very detailed online consult. Very positive attitude from the consultant as well. Doc said to be very fluent in English. Good impression. Honesty: gave a very short consult without providing rationale on the recommendations. Kept asking for my budget, which set off alarms because why else would they ask for budget if not to try and charge the maximum they can? Also offered to provide discount for writing reviews. First Button: Dr Kim gave an incredibly detailed breakdown of the recommendations and provided full rationale, risks, pros and cons, and different options. Appreciated the level of professionalism and personalization, but the prices were simply too steep for me. 345: very concise recommendations, unfortunately without rationale, just prices and procedures. Answered most of my other questions. Overall quite pleasant experience. BT: gave concise recommendations without providing much rationale. However, consultant had a very positive attitude, and provide detailed responses to all my other questions. Probably got Grace? Hear they have a Kelly and she is a nightmare to deal with. Ruby: provided a seemingly copy-paste list of procedures and prices, and tried to offer XX% discount if I paid deposit by a certain date to secure to surgery. Found several negative reviews online about their surgeon's attitude and quality of work. Thank You: copy paste and generic recommendations without much details on the rationale. Ignored most of my other questions as well. Negative reviews on Google about clinic practises. The reason why I'm so hung up on whether rationale was given and whether the recommendations feel copy-pasted is because the consultant probably didn't even speak to the doctor to get their opinion about your case, which could either mean the clinic/surgeon is too busy, or the staff can't be bothered to do a decent job after dealing with so many enquiries online. Once again though, it is not a direct reflection of a doctor's ability to deliver your desired results. (Part D - Full Dataset) Table 1: Initial Shortlisted Clinics Forgive me for the insane formatting of the table below. It's late and I'm tired. The most useful info here would probably be about each clinic's surgeon's area of specialty. May not be 100% accurate, so just ask to confirm with the clinic. S/N Clinic Reviews Doc Speciality Online Research Details Contact 1 JT GU: 9.6, 4.7k reviews Eyes: Dr. Kim Jin Sung 1. Quoted poster 1.85m for incisional DES without ptosis KKT: Jtpseng Goog: 4.8, 21 rev Nose: Dr. Kim Jin Sung, 2. Quoted poster 4.6m for Rhinoplasty all in http://www.jt-ps.com/ Naver map: 4.19, 138 Dr Kim Jin Tae (?) a. 3.25m for silicone and septal cartilage for tip b. 650k for bulbouse nose correction Whatsapp Dr Lee Jun Woo c. 1.04m for alarplasty d. 3.9m if use donor rib for nose 3. Quoted another poster 5.3m, but 3m if make early appt 2 Luho GU: 9.6, 7.2k reviews Eyes: Dr. Kim Jun Yung Quoted online poster 2.2m for ptosis correction + incision, nego to 1.5m Whatsapp: Goog: 4.8, 93 rev Dr. Park specializes in revision DES +82 1059231311 Naver: 4.26, 1.1k https://www.luho.kr/intro/intro03.php Dr. Yoo seems arrogant 3 Eight PS GU: 9.7, 15k reviews Eyes: Dr. Chae Soo-Wook Has English translators Whatsapp: (9 doc) Eyes: Dr. Kim Ji-Hyun (f) +82 10-2833-0858 Goog: 4.5, 33 rev Naver: 4.26, 495 Nose: Dr. Kim Han Jo (director) Dr Joo Oh-Young 4 Zestar GU: 9.7, 5.3k reviews Eyes: Dr Choi Anyone familiar with Zestar plastic surgery? | Page 2 | PurseForum Kakaotalk Goog: 5.0, 3 rev Seem to have botched someone - uneven eyelids, did not specify which doctor Whatsapp (found) Naver: 4.53, 180 Has in house translator 5 Respect GU: 9.7, 5k reviews Nose: Dr. Gon Jeong Sik KakaoTalk Channel - Respec Plastic Surgery Clinic (4 doc) Goog: 4.1, 59 rev Naver 4.18 153 6 Grand PS GU: 9.8, 1.4k reviews Eyes Mobile/WhatsApp (4 doc) +82) 10.9132.6546 Goog: 3.8, 103 rev Kakao Talk Naver: 4.36, 92 grandpseng 7 ARC GU: 9.8, 1.4k reviews Nose: Kwon Soon-Beom WhatsApp (found) (2 doc) Goog: 4.8, 47 rev Naver: 8 Honesty GU: 9.6, 3.7k reviews Eyes Rebranded to Honor? WA number is no longer active -7392 아너스티성형외과의원 (2 doc) Nose KakaoTalk Channel - Honor Plastic Surgery Clinic Goog: 4.9, 29 rev New number: +82 10-2279-6877 Naver: 9 First Button GU: 9.8, 700 reviews Nose: Dr Kim Tae Hwan WA: +82 10-5732-4500 (1 doc) Goog: 5.0, 13 rev Naver: 10 345 GU: 9.6, 2.6k reviews Eyes Share on WhatsApp Goog: 5.0, 169 rev Nose Naver 11 BT GU: 9.7, 577 reviews Nose: Dr. Lee Seung Ho Quoted poster 11m for nose BT Plastic Surgery (3 doc) Eyes: Dr. Lee Hobin Goog: 4.9, 39 rev 12 Ruby GU: 9.4, 9.4k reviews Eyes EYES Ruby Plastic Surgery (4 doc) Nose: 1. Natural adhesion + ptosis correction : 3,200,000krw Goog: 4.8, 134 rev 2. Medial epicanthoplasty : 880,000krw Online - Dr Lee Seung Jun (both) 3. Lateral canthoplasty : 1,300,000krw 4. Under eyebag fat reposition : 2,750,000krw NOSE 1. Nose bridge + tip : 3,960,000krw 2. Bulbous nose correction : 880,000krw 3. Short nose correction : 880,000krw 4. Alar cinching : 880,000krw 5. Donated rib cartilage : 1,650,000krw 13 Thank You GU: 9.1, 7.9k reviews Eyes: Dr Kim Dr Kim, 4m for incisional DES, partial ptosis, fat removal Thank You Plastic Surgery | Gangnam, Seoul Goog: 4.9, 383 rev Table 2: Online Consult Findings This table is the source of all the charts above. Most useful info would be the prices and the cost breakdown of the procedures that were recommended to me. S/N Clinic Area Procedure VAT Adjusted Price (m) Consult? Price (m) VAT Included? Cost Breakdown Incisional + Ptosis Non-Incisional + Ptosis Epicanthoplasty Bridge + Tip + Donor rib Main Procedure Pricing Zone GU rating Goog Rating Naver Rating 1 JT Eyes Incisional 2.55 Yes 2.32 No Incisional DES only - - - - Above avg price ~3m, esp without ptosis & epicanthoplasty Zone A - 1 9.6 4.8 4.19 2 JT Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 4.84 Yes 4.40 No Silicone bridge, tipplasty (ear & septal cartilage), columellar lengthening - - - 3.84 Below avg price ~6.3m, assume columellar 1m Zone A - 1 9.6 4.8 4.19 3 Luho Eyes Incisional 4.00 Yes 4.00 Yes Incisional DES, ptosis correction: 4m, Under-eye fat repositioning (optional): 3m 4 - - - Above avg price, esp without epicanthoplasty ~3m Zone A - 2 9.6 4.8 4.26 4 Luho Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 4.50 Yes 4.50 Yes Non-implant nasal bridge, nasal tip refinement (septal & ear, maybe rib depending on CT Scan): 3.5m, Soft tissue reduction: 0.5m, Alar base reduction: 0.5m - - - 4 Below avg price ~6.3m Zone A - 2 9.6 4.8 4.26 5 Eight PS Eyes Non-incisional 2.90 Yes 2.90 Yes Non-incisional DES + Ptosis: 2.2m, Epicanthoplasty: 660k - 2.2 0.66 - =Avg price ~2.3m Zone B - 1 9.7 4.5 4.26 6 Eight PS Eyes Incisional 3.40 Yes 3.40 Yes Incisional DES + Ptosis: 2.75m, Epicanthoplasty: 660k 2.75 - 0.66 - =Avg price ~3m Zone B - 1 9.7 4.5 4.26 7 Eight PS Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 8.20 Yes 8.20 Yes Bridge + tip + bulbous + alar + osteotomy: 6-7m, Donor rib: 2.2m - - - 7.2 Above avg price, est without alar & osteo ~6.3m Zone B - 1 9.7 4.5 4.26 8 Zestar Eyes Non-incisional 3.85 Yes 3.85 Yes Non-incisional DES, ptosis correction, epicanthoplasty - - - - Above avg price ~2.3m Zone B - 2 9.7 5 4.53 9 Zestar Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 6.27 Yes 6.27 Yes Nose bridge, tipplasty, bulbous tip correction, columellar lengthening - - - 5.27 =Avg price, assume columellar 1m ~6.3m Zone B - 2 9.7 5 4.53 10 Respect Eyes Non-incisional 2.53 No 2.30 No Non-incisional + ptosis: 1.5m, Medial epicanthoplasty: 0.8m - 1.65 0.8 - Below avg price ~2.3m Zone C - 1 9.7 4.1 4.18 11 Respect Eyes Incisional 3.08 No 2.80 No Incisional + ptosis: 2m, Medial epicanthoplasty: 0.8m 2.20 - 0.8 - Below avg price ~3m Zone C - 1 9.7 4.1 4.18 12 Respect Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 6.60 No 6.00 No Silicon bridge 2m, Tip plasty - donor (2m)/own rib, misc alar reduction 3m, discounted - - - 4 Below avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 1 9.7 4.1 4.18 13 Grand PS Eyes Non-incisional 2.40 No 2.40 Yes Non incisional DES + ptosis: 1.6m + 800k = 2.4m - 2.4 - - =Avg price ~2.3m Zone B - 3 9.8 3.8 4.36 14 Grand PS Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 5.30 No 5.30 Yes Silicone bridge + tipplasty 3.5m, Bulbous tip correction 800k, Columellar lengthening 1m - - - 4.3 =Avg price - scammy as tip plasty = bulbous tip correction ~6.3m Zone B - 3 9.8 3.8 4.36 15 ARC Eyes Non-incisional 2.86 Yes 2.60 No Non-incisional DES + Ptosis 1.56m, Medial (?) Epicanthoplasty 1.04m - 1.56 1.04 - Below avg price ~2.3m Zone C - 2 9.8 4.8 - 16 ARC Nose Silicone bridge, own rib 10.73 Yes 9.75 No Silicone bridge + tipplasty (own rib) 7.8m, Bulbous nose correction 0.65m, alar reduction 1.3m - - - 9.295 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 2 9.8 4.8 - 17 Honesty Eyes Incisional 3.56 No 3.56 Yes Incisional DES 1.8m, Ptosis correction 880k, Epicanthoplasty 880k 2.68 - 0.88 - =Avg price ~3m Zone A - 3 9.6 4.9 - 18 Honesty Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 7.00 No 7.00 Yes Silicone bridge + tipplasty (rib cartilage), Bulbous nose correction - - - 7 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone A - 3 9.6 4.9 - 19 First Button Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 10.00 No 10.00 Yes Silicone bridge: 5-6k USD + 2kUSD for donated rib, Tipplasty - septal cartilage - - - 10 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 3 9.8 5 - 20 First Button Nose Silicone bridge, own rib 12.15 No 12.15 Yes Silicone bridge + rib tip: 9k USD - - - 12.15 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 3 9.8 5 - 21 First Button Nose Rib bridge, own rib 14.85 No 14.85 Yes Rib bridge + rib tip: 11k USD - - - 14.85 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 3 9.8 5 - 22 345 Eyes Non-incisional 3.63 Yes 3.63 Yes Non-incisional DES + ptosis: 2.53m, Epicanthoplasty: 1.1m - 2.53 1.1 - Above avg price ~2.3m Zone C - 4 9.6 5 5 23 345 Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 8.25 Yes 8.25 Yes Silicone bridge: 4.4m, Bulbous nose correction: 1.1m, Donor/own rib: 2.75m - - - 8.25 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 4 9.6 5 5 24 BT Eyes Incisional 4.40 Maybe 4.40 Yes Incisional DES + ptosis: 3.3m, Epicanthoplasty: 1.1m 3.3 - 1.1 - Above avg price ~3m Zone C - 5 9.7 4.9 - 25 BT Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 11.22 Maybe 11.22 Yes Silicone bridge + tipplasty (septal cartilage) 3.85m, Bulbous nose: 1.1m, Columella correction 1.65m, Alarplasty: 1.32m, Own rib (4.4) or donor rib (3.3) - - - 8.25 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 5 9.7 4.9 - 26 Ruby Eyes Non-incisional 3.52 No 3.20 No Non-incisional DES 2m, Ptosis 500k, Epicanthoplasty 700k - 2.75 0.7 - Above avg price ~2.3m Zone A - 4 9.4 4.8 4.46 27 Ruby Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 7.59 No 6.90 No Silicone bridge: 3.5m, Bulbous nose correction: 700k, Alar cinching (reduce width): 700k, Donor rib: 2m - - - 6.2 =Avg price ~6.3m Zone A - 4 9.4 4.8 4.46 28 Thank You Eyes Non-incisional 3.08 No 2.80 No Non-incisional DES with ptosis - 3.08 - - Above avg price ~2.3m Zone C - 6 9.1 4.9 - 29 Thank You Nose Silicone bridge, donor rib 8.03 No 7.30 No Silicone bridge, septal & ear cartilage: 5.3m, Bulbous Nose: 800k, Donor rib: 1.2m - - - 8.03 Above avg price ~6.3m Zone C - 6 9.1 4.9 - Okay that's it, I'm stopping here. Will post more updates in the future about my F2F consult experience, surgery and recovery experiences, if I find the time/motivation to do so.

Just found this site the other day, I'm looking a number of different procedures. I'm planning on going to Korea next year and I'm curious about a number of things. Can I get a lift at the same time as jaw or zygomatic stuff? Would love to join the discord and Kakao as well if it's still around.

Hi, I'm interested in chin/jaw stuff and BA. Please send the code if this is still a thing. Thanks!

I've only recently started looking at places to check out in Korea but given how astroturfed most of the internet is I can only really parse what's on Reddit and maybe Unni and pick something that sounds real. I'm apprehensive about this as what I am looking at seems rather daunting. What I'm looking for is not limited to the following but some things I'm considering: *V-line *Double jaw surgery (sounds particularly unpleasant) *forehead contouring *rhinoplasty *chin shortening (part of v-line?) *zygomatic restructuring I've looked at jk, jw, banobagi, wonjin, AB, Nana and a few others that I've eliminated for various reasons. I'm intrigued by the price points compared to the US but definitely hesitant. I'd love to hear some reviews about these clinics. What are things you look for to determine if a place is legit? Is there any way to know if a place is more likely to do ghost docs? Thanks!

Before we make any final commitments, would be interested in anyone’s experience with Dr. Cha. Thank you very much

Searching for anyone who has had a lower eyelid blepharoplasty in South Korea. I've done extensive research and there seem to be so many doctors/agencies with excellent reviews that it is difficult to narrow the options down. Seeking a doctor with extensive experience etc

Hi guys, I have been doing research about double eyelids with epicanthoplaspy, and because Im a foreigner, I reached out to traveler surgery agency which is Beauty Hopper. Has anyone worked with them? Can I have some review? Thank you!

Disclaimer: This review was written as part of a discount program. The words are entirely my own and have not been reviewed by MIHO prior to publishing. I had a very tight travel schedule, with only eight days in Seoul. Because of this, I didn’t have the luxury of “shopping around” for clinics after arriving and had to rely on prior research and online consultations. Before my trip, I conducted online photo consultations with several clinics in Gangnam. MIHO stood out because of their responsiveness—Kevin, in particular, was incredibly prompt and helpful. After reading other positive reviews, I decided to proceed with MIHO for upper eyelid blepharoplasty with ptosis repair and a midface lift. Arrival and Initial Consultation Two days after landing in Seoul, I attended my appointment at MIHO. Kevin greeted me at reception and introduced me to Judy, my translator. Both Kevin and Judy spoke fluent English, which made communication seamless. During the in-person consultation, my surgical plan underwent significant changes. The doctor recommended switching the method of blepharoplasty from incisional to adhesion and suggested replacing the midface lift with thread lifting combined with fat grafting after assessing my skin and muscle tone. This unexpected shift was initially unsettling, as I hadn’t researched thread lifting and was unfamiliar with the procedure. Additionally, the blepharoplasty incision was placed sub-brow rather than at the crease line, which surprised me. Given my tight schedule, I trusted the doctor’s expertise and moved forward with the revised plan. In hindsight, I wish I had asked about alternative procedures during the photo consultation stage so I could better prepare. That said, Kevin and Judy were supportive and reassured me throughout the process. Surgery Day The procedure began in the late afternoon around 5 p.m. under sleep anesthesia, which was completely painless. I was groggy afterward and didn’t leave the clinic until around 9:30–10 p.m. If you’re planning a similar surgery, I highly recommend arranging for someone to accompany you after the procedure. It took me some time to be awake enough to leave after the surgery was completed. The clinic had already prepared my post-op medications and even provided a comforting pumpkin soup, which was a thoughtful touch. Judy also sent me detailed post-surgery instructions via text, which was extremely helpful since I was in no state to remember everything. Post-Operative Care Post-Op Day (POD) 1: I returned to the clinic for a wound check. While I was very swollen, the nurse confirmed everything was within normal limits. I didn’t see the doctor that day. POD 3: Another check-up included an IV treatment. I had some concerns, so Kevin arranged for me to meet briefly with the doctor, who reassured me that my recovery was on track. POD 7: My final check-up included stitch removal and a deswelling laser treatment (red light LED). The doctor checked in again and confirmed I was healing well. I flew out that evening, which was admittedly a rushed schedule. Post op week 1 Thoughts Overall, the experience at MIHO was smooth and efficient. The surgery itself was painless, and the staff went above and beyond to ensure I was comfortable and informed. If your schedule allows, I highly recommend staying in Seoul longer to fully recover and enjoy the city—it’s vibrant and full of amazing things to do and see. For anyone considering MIHO, I suggest being as thorough as possible during the consultation phase and researching alternative procedures in advance. While the changes to my plan turned out well, being better prepared would have helped me feel more confident going into surgery.

I would love to be added to the group please. I am now doing research and looking at getting an endoscopic brow lift and LAMS on my stubborn muffin top! My Kakao ID is lenahck

Hi I think I'm added but unsure since kakaotalk won't let me chat. My qr code:

Hi everyone! I'm Alex (aka __looking_for_things on Discord). I'm early 40's, I actually used to live in Korea over a decade ago and I was there again in 2019. I plan to go back in 2025 for a few cosmetic procedures. Procedures I'd like to do our skin treatments like laser, rhinoplasty, and either a mini facelift or something that will help nose folds.

I had it and now regret it so much. I'm terrified that it will cause blindness as I've had previous fat transfers that turned into hard lumps and the area in the orbital space behind the eyeball is very tight, with lots of blood vessels and the only lifeline to your vision, the optic nerve, which could be dismantled by a lump growing in the area. NO DOCTOR AGREES WITH PLACING FAT BEHIND THE EYEBALL. THEY ALL SAY DO NOT DO IT. AND YET HE IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE WORLD DOING THIS? DON'T YOU REALIZE WHY?! IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SOOO STUPID TO DO THIS. I am trying to see if anyone else has done this procedure and how long ago it was. I'm going to start getting regular orbital MRIs to monitor the lumps if they start to appear. FML

I wish I had read all the botched reviews about this clinic before falling victim to their high pressure sales tactics by their evil Deborah (literally the biggest bitch ever). She cares only about commissions and will belittle you and insult you if you have any worries. All of my worries were completely legitimate, like hmm..can you go blind putting fat BEHIND THE EYEBALL, which no other oculoplastic surgeon or plastic surgeon in the world does FOR A REASON (because it's NOT a good idea?) Or how about when the fat dies off at different rates, wouldn't that leave one eye more popped out than the other?! I went in for a simple lower canthoplasty as part of their Barbie 360 and she said I had to do the eye pop surgery. I didn't know there was such a thing. I also asked if it was possible to change my lids from a tapered to a higher parallel and she said not without the eye pop, but yes, with it I could and I drew a photo for them asking them, wouldn't that lead to a very visible scar from my old tapered lids? They didn't answer the question at the time prior to surgery and just blew it off as a non-concern, then later afterwards said that they told me it would be "barely noticeable," which I really don't recall. By sheer logic, the tapered scar would be visible. I didn't know if he had some magic trick he could pull out of a hat, but APPARENTLY NOT. The lids look so unnatural and the scars so apparent!! He also fat grafted under my eyes, so now I have huge BAGS that aged me 18 years. Next, we have the lateral canthoplasty, the biggest disaster of all!!! My left eye lower eyelid is flipped outwards-you can see the inside of my lid just hanging there, with a big bubble which is a hypertrophic scar. On the right side, the canthoplasty closed up and left a huge scar in the corner. I've had to go to several oculoplastic surgeons and they were so sorry that this happened to me and said they never would have done any of these things to my upper lids or corners. The only thing I can do is try steroid cream or injection, which can cause thinning of your CORNEA and cause blindness (SO UNECESSARY!!!) And I need to have a reverse lateral canthoplasty likely to have the skin go back to the right position. Lastly, I told her I was worried the labiaplasty would bleed a lot and she dismissed that fear, saying only if I went and walked around all over the city would I cause bleeding like another patient did. I woke up to a blood soaked bed and the nurses all panicking to stop my bleeding. ANOTHER QUESTION I ASKED THAT SHE DISMISSED AND I ENDED UP BEING CORRECT. I WILL SUE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS HOSPITAL. I CANNOT GO OUTSIDE ANYMORE AND I WAS BEAUTIFUL BEFORE THIS. MY LIFE HAS BEEN RUINED BY PITANGUI.