keenose Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Hey Masd2003, I am at a page where someone choose Korea over Taiwan... a comment she made. "For TWN docs, I can't say much cos I only saw before and after photos by Dr. Chang, the rest all don't post their patients' photos. I decided not to go to Dr. Chang is also partly bcos of his alar skill is not as good. The scar is still quite visible for most of the cases. The other reason is, nose job is a daily affair to Korea doc, so again, I go for the experienced. " WOW.. do you know about this? I believe its the same Dr Chang we are talking about yeah? His alar skill not good and visible scars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 the girl I went with got alar. and it had a huge difference, and there was no resulting scarring. before and after of her nose is really impressive. I got my eyes done Thursday afternoon... so I'm not surprised that I look like a monster still.. haha. Most people in the Soompi forum say that you may be remotely presentable without sunglasses at two weeks AT LEAST, unless you are miracle healer... I didn't take Sinnech this time... bad idea. I got bruising all over my right eye. the first time for nose, I did... no bruising at all. The girl I went with also did.. she didn't have any bruising from her eye procedures or nose... but man, we were swollen... haha And, ALSO, I did epicanthy with him, and that's supposed to have high risk of scarring. I don't have any scarring from it. haha... and nose job is almost daily affair for Dr. Chuang. But, please go where you feel comfortable. If you want to go to Korea, go there. But, honestly, I think the results are pretty much the same. I mean if you look at the BK and Dr. Jung's pictures, there is height difference. And, they broadcast some alar reduction, which I think Dr. Chuang can do also. I don't think there is anything in the before and after in the BK that Dr. Chuang can't do. But, for the most part, most noses DO NOT go through a huge transformation from bad nose to perfect. If this is needed, (Dr. Jung states this on his website), several separate nose jobs are needed. Oh, also, silicone implants by Dr. Chuang are almost always custom. He takes a preformed implant and cuts it to fit and makes alterations. Anyway, I feel like a ad for Dr. Chuang and I want to get away from that. I don't want anyone going to him just because of me. If Korea would make you feel more confident, please do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenose Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 Oh yeah.. I just remembered that you went with a gal who did alar. Is her nose totally normal now? I mean no more swelling? LOL I'm at the part of the forum (SG forum) whereby alot of people experience depression during the recovery process. There's nothing we can do to get ourselves "ready" for how terrible we will look then. At this point, I'm thinking should I allow my bf to go along with me.. lol You did Epi with chuang? I thought it was with Jong.. maybe I got mixed up. haha Actually, I agree every bit with you on the part whereby how the famous Korean PS might just give the same results as Tawan. So thats also why I am most likely going there. LOL... you are NOT an ad... just sharing your experience.. thats all hahah dont worry. I dont imagine you as a signboard too! lol We only want to share truthful information yeah... If I've done it and I feel its good, I will definately say the same too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 I haven't been getting replies again lol, it's kinda iffy Anyways, I think I'm taking a long time to heal because I'm just a slow healer but also because larger eyelids take a long time to heal. I am supposed to go back for a followup appt. a few weeks from now but I don't know if the receptionist knows because last time I just left without talking to her. Plus if they call, I am not going anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 22, 2007 Share Posted July 22, 2007 You're not supposed to cover up with makeup for two weeks.... so I'm just going to look bruised and swollen. no way around it. sinnech doesn't help that much with the swelling... It did with the bruising though. the other girl's nose is doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenose Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Hey Maskd2003, Wow ok.. finally Dr Chuang replied to me. Please read on... and help me out. I want to know what you think. 1)I asked about the complications and side effects of goretex.. my worry.He replied that goretex is difficult to remove generally. Here is what he said exactly.. but I dont really catch it."As you've known, we can change implant for different shape very easily but we can't do it the same with Goretex. Once if you don't like it we need to approach the same incision and take it out for revision. However, it is very impossible to leave a deformed nose in the secondary procedure except the doctor won't be careful to do it. "So what does that mean? Does it mean that if I need revision, he will be very careful and wont give a deformed nose? 2) I asked about goretex's tendency in giving a wide, straight bridge (fake looking- like Dr Jung's IMPO)He replied that goretex can give a natural look as compared to using silicon for the same kind of height. Silicon will give like a sharp bridge, which is not so natural. He also said that he might not give me a slim bridge because my face is round.. to match. He said that he can tailor goretex to suit each individualOK good...I agree with his points too... 3) Since he did give the option of face lipo+botox for me, I asked for pictures since there are none of the exact combination on his website. He replied that he cannot give pictures due to patient's confidentiality.... hmmm4) In response to the options to get a gua zi face shape...He replied that he will perform "real malarplasty", which is a corrective osteotomy, not just bone shaving. This is the KEY procedure. 5) I asked him to give his advise on what I should do to make myself prettier.. He replied..."In my opinion I think you should have priority in cahnging the whole face. They will be:1. Mandibular bone shaving: You don't need Botox injection.2. Facial liposuction: to make your cheeks more flat.3. Malarplasty: to reduce the width of upper portion. The face will be looking slimmer.That's it!!"Wonder how much all of that will cost!!! 6) I asked for the recovery time for nose and how long to be natural and able to meet friends..He replied 10-14days!7) I asked the recovery time for bone shaving.He replied 7-10days!!!!8) And finally.. I asked the question you asked me to ask.How long for the hard cast/ splint to be worn on the nose for goretex.He replied :"No you don't need to wear any nasal splint or cast after operation. We only use a fixation tapping bandage over your bridge for 3 days. "What do you think???? I read that some PS have such good skills that the swelling/ recovery is faster than other PS..... is this the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I agree with his information on the implants... but the healing time??? that's bull. I'm sorry... but I've heard it over and over again from doctors in Asia that healing time is really fast. But, the one guy who did bone shaving from Dr. Chuang went through a LONG healing process... If you ask any doctor in the US how long these procedures take to heal... they will NEVER say that short of time. They will say months. Maybe it is true that you don't need a cast... I'm not too informed on goretex as I am on silicone. I just know Dr. Jung uses a cast... but it may just be used to restrict swelling.. Malarplasty also has to do with the bone. It's freaking scary... These bone procedures are freaking scary... and have so many risks. They will be chipping bone off and shifting the placement of it... MAYBE, you may look natural at two weeks... but I assure you that it won't be pretty. My nose was pretty freaking ugly for a month... way worse than my original... Cost, pain, and risks associated with these procedures... man, I don't think it's worth it. But, that's just my opinion. It's different for everyone... so my opinion doesn't matter all that much. If you go through with it and are happy, I will be glad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 I think what he meant by the goretex is that if a revision is needed. Goretex can be taken out, but needs to be replaced with new implant??? Not really sure... wording is kind of weird. One of the gals who used to be on the forum said that her doctor said goretex removal can often result in a deformed nose. But, hopefully, people won't need a revision... All of this is risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenose Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 YEAH!!! I was like "HUH???" when he replied me such short healing time. The guy who did bone shaving from Dr Chuang? Which one? Was it the guy who posted at youtube? For jaw reduction or something? OOh I see I see.. I thought when he replied I didnt need a cast, I was like "RED ALERT!!!" lol So Dr Chuang.. is very very optimistic? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenose Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 YEah! I cannot understand what he is saying as well..... Did he mean.. its very unlikely to get a deformed nose... or did he mean its very possible to get a deformed nose? Gosh.. such different meanings. Anyway I have replied him, see what he says. By the way.. in your personal opinion... how did you feel when you met Dr Chuang? Is he the pushy type? Is he the dollar driven kind of doctor? Who might ask you do do alot of procedures etc? OR is he the kind that ONLY asks you to do the stuff that he thinks you really need to do? Just wanna have a feel of what you felt there. Yeah, I also read that removing goretex has a high chance of deforming the nose. The longer the goretex is in your nose, the stronger the bond. The stronger the bond, the higher chance of deforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 If you do get Goretex, hopefully you don't need to do a revision later. The first few weeks are more the crucial point where infection can set in or your body rejects it etc. but once you pass the crucial time, risk is very very low. As for the 7-10 day healing, I highly doubt it for those procedures you just listed off. I mean even for simpler surgeries, 7-10 days is only for the rare best of the best who heal like miracle people lol Always prepare for the worst. Don't go in there thinking 7-10 days because that is not true for alot of people. Go in there thinking several weeks to several months for healing time afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Kimosa is right. Infection is the main thing generally that you need to worry about with goretex... It gets harder and harder to remove the longer you have the implant in your nose. So, I don't think the shape of goretex will warp. He just means if you have it in for say 6 months, there is less risk of taking it out and not messing your nose, than say having the implant in for 6 years. Dr. Chuang,, I will say is not pushy. Dr. Jong is super not pushy. Dr. Chuang will tell you his straight out opinion of a person's face and offer drastic procedures. He will honestly tell you which procedures will make your face look better... so even if you don't NEED it but it will make your face look better, he will suggest it to you. But, he never suggests things just for money. I went to him and I asked him about the nose. He said my nose height was good but we can make it better, and my nose tip was round.. and then he said, "Is there anything you want to talk about?" I said, "you tell me what else I can do to make it really pretty." He suggested epicanthy and raising the double eyelid and nothing else... then I asked him about my face shape and he laughed, and said no, I didn't need to do anything. In the end, I got nose and epicanthy from him... which I don't regret at all. Unfortunately, I had no idea the epicanthy would make my fold lower... which is why I am enduring another session of swelling now. arg. I think he's very honest about people's faces, and he is definitely not pushy. He's very friendly and almost always smiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskd2003 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 oh, btw, goretex infection is rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosa Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 So having the epicanthy previously made your fold lower? That's why you got the eyelids done or you mean right now after your surgery it made your folds seem lower? Hehe, I'm confusing myself now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celeb_thai Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi Friend I plan to do new face with Dr.Chuang but I worried about beauty idea.I think i should show the picture or woman photo to doctor.Picture is million word than speech.I know , the background face is most important and I cannot to say" i wanna be her" ....but i just only share my beautiful sense..Do you think about it? Pls suggest me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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