sophie_45 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Fat grafting is very unpredictable in terms of survival, and I wouldn't do it for such a small and delicate area such as the under eyes, unless I go with a surgeon that specialises in and is extremely talented in doing this procedure and does so conservatively. The under eye area is not forgiving- too much fat (even if it is just a little too much) and it will appear extremely off (which would suck because unlike filler, apart from the small amount of fat reabsorption that would occur, most of the fat deposited would last for several years at least, even heard it can last a lifetime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katexoxo Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Then should I just keep continuing with filler injection? :'0 thanks for your long review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huongkhanmoon Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Hi, I heard that fat survival rate on face is very low... A study showed that more than 50% of patients having fat grafted on their face ended up seeing most of the fat reabsorbing. I think solution for you might be stem cell fat grafting... Stem cell helps with fat survival rate, the result might last permanently. However, meanwhile you don't want all the fats to reabsorb (time and money waisting!!!), you don't want the doctor to overcorrect the problem area either. Under eye skin is a risky place to deal with, and too much fat might make you look swelling. You can chat with Laprin to discuss about this, they have advanced technology in stem cell fat graft I believe. Good luck and keep us updated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huongkhanmoon Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 And oh also, unless you have sunken undereye, most of us have fat on our lower eyelid so have you considered fat repositioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huongkhanmoon Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 Update on price and doctors' info Laprin: Fat repositioning + fat grafting for dark circles: 2,000,000 KRW. Dr. Lee Yeong Jong Laprin: Fat repositioning for dark circles (1,200,000 KRW) + stem cell fat grafting for the whole face (2,600,000 KRW). Total is 3,800,000 won (this includes airport pickup, anesthesia, blood test, translator, after care service). Dr. Lee Yeong Jong. (Note: this price is a discount price if I agree to write an honest review + allow them to post before/after pics) JK: Fat repositioning for dark circles 2,250,000 KRW. Dr, Kim Sung Sik Opera: Fat repositioning for dark circles 1,300,000 KRW. View Clinic: Fat repositioning 2,500,000KRW and Fat grafting for dark circles 3,000,000 KRW. Total is 5,500,000 KRW. MVP: Fat repositioning for dark circles 1,500,000 KRW. Dr. Seo Uvom: Fat repositioning for dark circles: 2,000,000 KRW. This price is negotiable during face2face consultation. Plus they can give discount of 30% if I let them post before/after pics but this promotion can end anytime. Dr. Kang Min Jo. My takeaways after online consultations with these clinics: The consultant from Laprin is the most considerate lady ever. I asked so many questions out of my worries, and she's always patient to answer all my questions. She also told me to do more research, as no matter how much she tries to explain, I will still be concerned if I don't do research on my own. She mentioned that Laprin can offer a discount (see above) in exchange for an honest review, so they will do their best so they can have good review from me. I really like her, can't wait to meet with her and the doctor in person! Opera's consultant is kinda rude. When I asked her if there will be any translator during my face2face consultation, she just abruptly answered "Of course not!" ??!!?? View and JK are so overpriced. I don't make decision based on price if they really do a good job, but is it worth paying 2, 3 times the price? Uvom's consultant is very nice too. I like their before/after pictures. Last but not least, this was my first time hearing about "stem cell" and to be honest, I'm really intrigued by the concept. Although not so sure about stem cell procedure this time, I will definitely consider doing it in the future. It helps tightening, smoothing and brightening skin, and can help my face look chubbier. "The stem cells used in fat transfer procedures are taken from your body's own fat stores. These stem cells are naturally occurring and regenerative. In addition, they can differentiate into specialized cell types. Stem cells can improve your results by creating an enhanced natural blood supply to the treatment area. This will ultimately improve the quality, health, and appearance of your skin, providing a better outcome than traditional fat transfer procedures. In addition, you will achieve longer lasting results." (quoted from MVP). I also have a PDF file about stem cell therapy at Laprin, if anyone is interested you can PM me and I'll send you the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_45 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I think it depends on how sunken your tear troughs are. If it is only mild, I would continue to get fillers (I've noticed that in this area of the face, filler lasts quite a while especially compared to the lips, wbu?). But if you have deep tear troughs I would, only after extensive research on a doctor I trust, would get fat grafting done just because fillers can get quite pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_45 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Also, forgot to ask, do you have sufficient volume in your cheeks? Only asking because I was much more happy with my dark circles after I had gotten cheek fillers than when I had tear trough filler (the anterior part of my cheeks were quite flat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugz Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I would also caution anyone against being unrealistic with expectations re: any sort of plastic surgery, esp. with difficult things like undereye pigmentation. I have had undereye fat repositioning. It's still not perfect, but a much better improvement than before (and is no longer visible in photographs). I don't have eye bags anymore. HOWEVER, the dark circles are absolutely still there and I still need concealer to change the pigment. I have also had both facial lipo and chin lipo (I did the chin lipo in America). Liposuction looks amazing the first few months, but the fat comes back unless you're on a diet for life. For me, it didn't even come back in "different areas," as I've read here as well as in scientific studies. I literally have a double-chin again just 2 years after doing it! I am not fat at all -- I'm in the low 130 normally (though I fluctuate to the mid/high 130s on occasion). I just had facial lipo with some really good results in January. I went out to eat 3 days in a row last week for work purposes. Weight went up to 136 instantly, and well, guess what -- my face is pretty freaking fat again (again, not as bad as before, and still a noticeable improvement, but there's definitely fat). Very frustrating!!! I HATE how I put on weight on my face and nowhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katexoxo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I also heard that the fat won't survive for a long time... but I somehow(?) think that it's safer than filler lol..and whenever I concern about my dark circles, consultants always offered me to get fat grafting for my under eyes... hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katexoxo Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Right, I also heard from the doctors that fillers can stay longer under eyes than any other area.. but I feel like mines already gone (ugh..maybe I got injected too little..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_45 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Agree with you 100% on setting realistic expectations when it comes to cosmetic surgery. Any good doctor will tell you this from jump Did you just get chin lipo or did you do your whole face? You're actually pretty lucky you gain weight on your face first as it is the best for aging haha there is a saying 'after 40, you either pick your face or your ass'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophie_45 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Sorry just read your post again, you had both face and chin lipo. Have you heard of removing buccal fat pads on your face? That makes a whole lot of difference. Pretty sure Bella Hadid got that done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugz Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 My fat isn’t where bucccal fat is stored, so it wouldn’t work on me. I’m kind of giving up on the skinny face idea. Two rounds of lipo and the fat comes back the second I gain weight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huongkhanmoon Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 I'm the other way around. I wish to have chubby face but no matter how much I gain weight, the fat just accumulates around my belly/thighs/buttocks. I look weird with chubby body and super skinny face. That's why I think I fall into those types of girls whose fat grafting on face won't help, most of the fat will end up absorbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huongkhanmoon Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Thanks! I consulted with many clinics and most of them warned me that they can't fix pigmentation by fat repositioning. They can help with eye bag though. I somehow think that eye bags do contribute to the "dark ring" appearance too, as they cast shadow over the skin beneath; thats why I believe having the bags themselves eliminated can help a lot with improving "dark circles"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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