Revisional double eyelids surgery

[thinkpink17]

Cant wait to go to Korea April 22-June 24 for epi reversal first then around June 14th for revision double eyelid surgery.

 

[deepeyes]

Hi

Can someone provide dr cho from bando eye email address? Thanks

 

[juicy88]

Deepeyes said: ↑

Hi

Can someone provide dr cho from bando eye email address? Thanks

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Bandoeye has changed their clinic to Bio Clinic.

 

[cherryzz]

Deepeyes said: ↑

Hi

Can someone provide dr cho from bando eye email address? Thanks

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i tried searching for the email address for you but i couldnt find it. anyway i found this bad review that i have saved long time ago. so i thought i should just paste it here.(read below)
theres also another review about BIO from a member and her username on PF is "eyelid revision" try and look for it. maybe you'll find some useful info.


[FONT=&quot]I went to Seoul for my double eyelid revision surgery at BIO (ex Bandoeye).[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I had the problems with my previous eyelid surgery, too high, too deep and asymmetry.
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Now I am so unhappy.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The shape of my left eye is strange, the eyelid doesn't go up well and doesn't shut fully.
It seems as though too much skin is removed.
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]My right eye is not so bad. It's not the result I wanted, I wanted the shape of double eyelid outer line but they made inner type.
But much better than left. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I cannot believe the same doctor made both of eyes. I inquire to the doctor whether it's possible to revise it again, and am seeking another doctor also in this forum.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

 

[cherryzz]

Thinkpink17 said: ↑

Cant wait to go to Korea April 22-June 24 for epi reversal first then around June 14th for revision double eyelid surgery.

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all the best to you =)

 

[deepeyes]

Thanks Cherryzz.

Yes I read these two posts before. I think dr Cho has some good and bad reviews. But couldnt' find many drs who are specialized at revisions. Good to get more information.

I read somewhere that you were going to do revision in Jan. have you done that already?

 

[thinkpink17]

Deepeyes said: ↑

Hi

Can someone provide dr cho from bando eye email address? Thanks

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BIO Website: http://www.biops.kr/fmain/enIntro.asp
Dr. Cho's e-mail: [email protected]
I still havent received a reply from Dr. Cho and its been about 3 weeks.

Have you looked into Dr. Kang for revision eyelid surgery?

 

[itsumobaby]

I saw dr cho from BIO when I went to Korea last month, I just dont get a good vibe from him

 

[deepeyes]

Hi Thinkpink17,

Thanks for the info.
I managed to talk to Dr Cho's counterpart in Beijing. They are pretty quick in responding but that's because they wrote to me in Chinese. I haven't heard from Dr Cho either.

Yes, I am also considering Dr Kang from IOU. I emailed him since last Friday but I haven't heard anything as yet.

 

[deepeyes]

Hi Itsumobaby,

It seems Dr Cho does have a mixture of reviews in this forum. Afterall there are not many who specialized in eyelid revisions.

 

[deepeyes]

itsumobaby said: ↑

i had my eye done badly by migo clinic and i am in korea at the moment to do eye revision consultations by I.O.U, BIO, BK dr shin, dr ahn, MVP, EVE clinic, would you be interested in me sharing the info? are you planning to go to korea soon?

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Hi Itsumobaby,

So which is the best revision clinic in your opinion after your consultations?

Thanks!

 

[deepeyes]

snowcup said: ↑

It looks like someone sent me a message to tell me she didn't want to provide any info about Dr. Lee at Eyemagic unless I first sent her my pictures.

This is a forum where people come to exchange information, ideas and views. I personally find it a little suspect when someone makes a suggestion without providing any supporting info so that's why I asked.

Anyway, I'm happy to share what I learned. I arrived in Seoul earlier this week and decided last minute to go meet with Dr. Lee even though by that time I'd booked my surgery elsewhere. It actually helped me confirm I'd made the right choice.

The clinic's location is a few blocks from the Garosugil main street. The clinic is located in an older building, but their suite was modern and new. I actually went without an appointment since I didn't have a working phone to call beforehand and their website is in Korean. When I arrived, the lead receptionist said I would need to make an appointment and come back later, though no one was in the waiting room. Since I could speak Korean, I asked if they could make an exception since I would be leaving Seoul fairly soon. They said they would try to accommodate me, and I waited about 30-40 minutes until I was called. I actually found Dr. Lee to be nice, and he was confident that he could deliver the results I wanted. He didn't really examine me like the others had but seemed to have a good grasp of the issue. His quote was the highest (9 million range) among the clinics I visited (BIO, IOU and Teuim and Ahn PS). Objectively, I thought his strengths, based on pictures, showed improvement in the shape of the eyes (separate from the eyelids themselves). He was also quick to tell me he was famous, which reminded me of my prior doctor, and made my surgery sound like a breeze.

While confidence is good, it didn't strike the right balance with me. By that time, I'd met with a couple of eye surgeons in the US and the other clinics. Asymmetry is not easy to fix. I wanted a surgeon who could acknowledge the difficulty, but also had the confidence and experience with the issue at the same time. Plus, there wasn't a single person who could provide a personal experience with this doctor.

I'll provide a rundown of the other places I visited later but wanted to share a quick snapshot of this clinic because no one else has yet.

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Hi Snowcup,

Which clinic did you go for revision in the end?
Speedy recovery!

Thanks!

Cheers

 

[deepeyes]

mldaven said: ↑

First of all, I am very thankful for everyone who posted their experiences here, so that I could find Dr. Kang from IOU(http://www.iou4u.com) to fix my very unsatisfactory eyelid surgery outcome.

Back in September, 2011, I had my first eyelid surgery to remove droopy eyelid skin from a doctor in LA. But, the outcome was very unsatisfactory.
My creases were totally asymetrical and incision lines sat at 9-9.5mm, which it looked totally unnatural.
I suffered from depression and emotional pain after the first surgery and cried almost every day, until I had my eyelid revision with Dr. Kang from IOU.

As I can read and speak Korean fluently, I was able to find a few clinics that are well reviewed at eyelid revision from the internet.
I emailed them whether the revision can be done at 4 months post-op from first surgery as I could not live another day crying and suffering emotionally.
Most of them told me that I need to wait at least 6 months to entertain the idea of revision just like three oculoplastic surgeons I saw here in the USA. But, 3 doctors in Korea told me that they may be able to do the revision at 4 months if the scar is not bad. To be precise, one doctor said he can do the revision for sure at 4 months post-op from first surgery. Other two doctors including Dr. Kang said they need to see me face to face to determine whether I can be a candidate for revision.

I decided to fly to Korea in January at the 4 months mark from first my eyelid surgery and had three consulations in Korea. All of doctors said that the revision can be done to lower the eyelids.
I was told that there are two ways to lower the high folds. One method is placing the new incision line lower than the original one and to remove the skin between, which I believe this is a typical way to lower the high folds. This method is good if there is enough skin.

Another method is placing the new incision line below the original one and undoing the original eyelid surgery with the fat grafting to prevent re-adhesion. This method does not need to remove any skin, which is good in case of skin shortage. As I did not have enough skin to remove, two doctors recommened the latter method to me.

Among the two doctors, Dr. Kang's fee was more expensive but, I chose Dr. Kang as I felt that he knew exactly what had to be done to my eyelids.
I wanted to get the job done right even if it cost more as I did not want to go through more horrible times.
My surgery lasted about two and half hours for lowering the eyelids, fat grafting, ptosis correction and lower eyelid blepharoplasty.

Right after surgery, I could see that my eyes looked way better than before even though I was so bruised. My creases were almost symetrical and lower. And, they were both more naturally tapered.

At about 2 weeks post-op, my eyelids looked so natural even though it was still bruised. The swelling went away really quickly.
When I left Korea after one month Post-Op, I still had some amount of bruising and I was really worried that it may not go away. But, Dr. Kang assured me that it would go away and I am so glad that it did.
I am almost 2 months post-op now from revision with Dr. Kang and most of my bruising is gone. Just very slight discoloration on one eyelid, which it is not noticeable.

If you are suffering from a bad eyelid surgery, I highly recommed Dr. Kang for you. He is very gentle, caring, great bedside manner and professional.
His office is full of Korean patients seeking eyelid revision surgeries. During follow-up visits, I have met many happy patients who had the eyelid revisions with him.
I was told that most of eyelids can be fixed and improved. So, please don't give up the hope. I thought that there was no hope for me until I met Dr. Kang.

I am so glad that I found him. For the first time in 6 months, I am not trying to hide my eyes from people seeing.
Finally, I am no longer crying because of my eyes.

If I need another eye work in the future, I now know where to go.
Please note that I am not working for Dr. Kang.

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Hi,

Thanks for your post. May I see your before and after revision. My email is [email protected]

 

[deepeyes]

Sadeyes said: ↑

Hello all! I am back from Korea and wanted to share my story. I will try to make this as detailed and efficient as possible.

Problem: Too high and deep of a crease. Crease was made at 10mm and platform show of eyelid (at rest and looking straight) was approx 4mm each eye. My eyes were also hollow, outfolded, and no extra skin to revise. One year post op.

Goal: Find a PS to lower the crease, thin out the line, create an in-out fold, as well as conduct the non-skin excision technique. I used to have natural 2mm of eyelid show and my ultimate goal was just to have my old eyes back.

IOU

Dr. Kang is known for the lowering technique without skin excision and fat grafting. He does a great job; however, I felt that his after photos on his website were more of a monolid-look than I’d prefer. Also, a couple of others have reviewed on here that their eyelids are now too low after Kang revised. I realized that Dr. Kang probably prefers a lower look overall, and with that in mind, I met with him. Dr. Kang is very friendly and patient. They said they had an English speaking dermatologist but when I met her (I’m not sure if she was the dermatologist but they said she was), her English was pretty limited. Although she is extremely nice Anyway, I showed a pic of my old eyes to Kang and he recommended to lower to 6mm, ptosis correction of both eyes, and 0.2cc of fat injection to each eyelid. I was surprised he recommended ptosis, and he told me that the initial DES is what gave me ptosis and that I didn’t have it before. Wow. Quoted $5100 but the English Derm lowered it to $5000 for me. Later on that day, they emailed and lowered it to $4700 USD.

BIO

Met with Dr. Cho because he seems to also be well known for eyelid revisions. Showed him my photos and he suggested to excise about 2mm of skin. I asked if he could do the non-fat grafting technique and he didn’t say that he couldn’t but just replied that skin excision should be good for me. I asked him about ptosis. He said I didn’t necessarily need it but he could do it. ??? He quoted me $6000 USD for the procedure and $7100 USD if I wanted ptosis correction. Umm…no thank you. Moving on!

Banobagi – Dr. Lee

Finally English speaking staff!!!! There was a Chinese coordinator and the interpreter; however, they both spoke English pretty well. The meeting with them was the best consult out of the three. I was able to fully explain my concerns and my goals but only to the coordinators. The coordinators told Dr. Lee my case and he recommended to lower my crease to 6mm by fat graft and the non-skin excision procedure. I didn’t even get the chance to tell Dr. Lee that I’d like a 2mm show so I was surprised he recommended new crease cut of 6mm. Quote was $4000 USD.

Decision

Basically, Dr. Lee and Dr. Kang had both recommended the same exact surgery for me. Dr. Cho was no longer an option. Tossed and turned all night and I finally decided on Dr. Kang. Why? Well because with Dr. Kang, I had seen the direct results of his surgeries. At IOU Clinic, all after photos are from Dr. Kang. So I knew what he was and was not capable of, I guess. With Dr. Lee, Banobagi clinic is such a big clinic that I wasn’t sure the after photos (Only saw 1-2 photos) were directly a result of Dr. Lee’s work. Although the communication was great there, the communication was really between myself and the staff, not with Dr. Lee.

Surgery Day

Pretty simple surgery compared to the first. Went in and reviewed what it was I wanted. I actually pushed for 7mm cut instead of 6mm (again because Kang tends to be lower than I’d like). Dr. Kang said that at 7mm, people wouldn’t notice too much. I told him that it okay, I just want the end result to be 2mm of show and in-out. On that table, they gave some type of a hallucinogen during the fat extraction from my stomach then local for my eyes. During the last part of the procedure, I could feel the tugging, fat injections, sewing, and so forth. It hurt but I was able to tolerate it. I have a higher tolerance for gruesome scenes so I didn’t care. At recovery, blood was beginning to cake on my lids and blood kept dripping down like I was crying blood. Overall, I was fine and walking around. I think I even went to Millennium Casino that night. Stitches taken out at day 6 and pain-free!

Conclusion

Yay!!!! I love it!!! I look as close to my old self again as I can possibly get. The crease is noticeably lower, and not deep and thick. It has been two weeks and much of the bruising is gone. The swelling is minimal but still there. Only I notice the swelling. At rest, my lids show about 2.5-3.25mm and I think they will probably still lower somewhat. I no longer have to draw super thick black eyeliner. I have more area between my eyebrows and my eye lids. Even my mom says I look like myself again. Trust me, moms know the details of their baby’s faces very well. I know because I am a mother myself. The only thing is that it seems like I still have an out fold. L But one cannot expect to achieve 100% of what they want. That’s just impossible. People will always look for areas to improve. With that said, I am very pleased with my results so far. Now, I smile when I see a mirror instead avoiding them. I am happy to take pictures again. All thanks to the Big Guy above.

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Hi,

Thanks for your details. How is your eyes now?
May I see your before and after revision photos? Could you email me at [email protected]

 

[deepeyes]

juicy88 said: ↑

Yes, his clinic is very easy to find! Just walk out of sinsa station gate 3 and his clinic just outside. Last night he operated on me again I was the last one there lol until 7 plus.. He operated on me the first time last Saturday. But he said my left eye muscle is still weak and had to do second revisional ( I think my face turn red bevuz I was so nervous).. He seems to b very meticulous and has been checking up on me every single day (excepts Sundays). And have a sense of dedication for his patients and really cares abt the patients outcome... Im putting all my hopes on dr.kang... Fingers crossed for my result!!! I'm seeing him again in the evening....

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Hi Juicy88,

How's your recovery?
Could you show me your before and after revision? Thanks.
My email is [email protected]