shinyglittery Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 @Endymion $150/day = barely profitable? Even if after expenses it was half of that (and you can bet it's not that little) that's over $1800 (almost 2M won) if you work 25 days a month, you can barely live on that in Korea? Funny since the minimum wage is 361,600 won... ----------------------------------------------- I've been making a list of all the different prices but it's still full of holes... see for yourself... ^^; I also have nothing on Real Regen Dream Jewelry TL or Bandoeye and only v-line price for everM... if anyone wants to help me by sending me more prices I'd be so grateful ^-^ I'll update any prices I get and post it here so everyone can benefit from it ^_^ link to full-sized image: http://s22.postimg.org/q1qblz6pp/psprices.jpg / http://postimg.org/image/q1qblz6pp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautan Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 For JK Plastic, I was given very broad ranges. For V-line, between $4,000 and $15,000 USD For Rhinoplasty, between $2,000 and $5,000 Considering the photos on their three websites, it is not a very good place to do V-line unless you want a very rounded, natural jaw shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 lautan, thanks for the info ^^ Ps. I posted a new thread! # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endymion Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 $150 is for each client, not every day. It includes the consultation, surgery company and a few follow up visit. Does it still sound profitable to you? Seoul is not a cheap place to live. And my point is that they all take hefty commission from your surgery. That's where their real profit comes. Those translators make way more than you would guess. It is an unscrupulous business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I know they take 30-40% (No clinic gives 50% I think but I might be wrong! Then again, the clinics don't always know anything about their commission so they could take 200% if they wanted...), no guessing necessary ^^ We agree it's an unscrupulous business... It just sounded like you were defending them. Seoul is an expensive city... if you need new clothes, new electronics and new makeup every day and a new car twice a year... Ps. yes it sounds very profitable, all translators make you pay for your own taxis etc... And even if they paid for some things you can rest assured it's a tiny fraction of what you're paying them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittygaga123 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Yeah, you are getting rip off. the fees for eyelid surgery from Pitangui is 1,500,000-2,000,000 which is equivalent to US$1,400 - US$1,900, Rhinoplasty cost 3,500,000 US$3,300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 A lot of people say that Pitangui is cheap, but when I emailed them, they quoted me nearly as much as VIP and TL (the most expensive clinics). I guess they are cheap if you ONLY need a silicone implant and that's it. They tried to charge me alarplasty, tiplasty, silicone implant, etc. separately. I emailed them again asking them to confirm (people on this board suggested that I might have read it wrong) -- it was correct, they charge each portion separately!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I wouldn't use BK for anything, my notes on them: "Many botched surg! Factory! -BK is in top 10 sued clinics!! -very bad aftercare -the dr is a psycho max nights stay at bk = 3? you can buy pumpkin juice @ pharmacy next to BK " I don't even have their prices listed, didn't think worth including in my price list ^_^ Pitangui, I have these prices: -osteotomy * "4.2-4.66M won/$3.9-4.3k 23.8-26.4元 / 2900-3200 " -alarplasty "(reduction) 1.45M won/$1300 7900 元 / 1000 " Rhino augment. "(paranasal aug.) 1.95-2.5M won/$1.8-2.3 11-14.1k 元 / 1.4-1.7k " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 That's not very nice! In many clinics one is included in the other... Also in some clinics alarplasty and tipplasty are included in the price of osteotomy (bone shaving/molding of the nose) Chungdam U for example chargers 3.8M won/$3500/21500 元 / 2600 for osteotomy and alar/bulbuous and tipplasty are included... I think implant might not be included though but I'm not sure? The important thing is to always ask what is included in the price ^^ Not just surgery but aftercare/medication as well! Otherwise you'll end up paying a lot more than you thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladybugz Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 Yep, I concur. If you have a simple enough nose and all you need is an implant, I'm sure you'll get a great deal anywhere. If you need a ton of things done to it (like I do), you need to be really careful to ask for an all-inclusive price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamseoul Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I live in Seoul and speak enough Korean to get by, I initially emailed a few places about a lower bleth my prices were about $3000 including fat grafting. My office is in Sinsa and on the way there I went into a place asking about the same thing, got quoted 3 million won for the same thing plus mild upper bleth, I spose refreshing my western upper eyelids would be no more complicated than doing Asian eyelid surgery. These translators are ripping you off, talk the seller down and talk the buyer up. $150 per day is enough to live on in Seoul, 2 million won per month is so much more than you would earn working in a cafe or retail shop and is about all a medium skilled office worker could ever hope to make. A translator getting $150 per day and a million or more won per week of commissions is gettin rich and living large! A regular doctor here earns about 5 million per month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamseoul Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 One thing also you have to remember about BK is they are a surgery mega factory, they see as many patients in a week as most other places would see in a month so they are going to be the most sued and have more cases that go wrong as with this type of stuff there is always going to be a percentage of bad outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 adam thank you for posting that, I never like it when people try to justify the translators' greed as something necessary... it's greed, pure and simple!but... what do you mean lower bleph 3M including fat grafting? 3M is SUPER expensive for lower bleph even with 'love band' grafting imo... did you mean lower bleph + fat grafting on your face like forehead or cheeks or chin? because that would make more sense... sorry just not sure what you mean ^^ ps. i hope you're not trying to justify hurrying surgeries and not taking proper care of your patients and not hiring proper specialists in order to make more money... it's not right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamseoul Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Hi shinyglittery cheers, the 3M price I got was from an online form, some kind of place that supposedly gets you the best surgeons and price etc.. I think they must have got a 2M price then tacked a million on it and hoped for the best. I think a proper price for this including fat transfer from abdomen to the area around the orbital rim and just a little below it is around 2M. Im not justifying them doing shoddy work, its just they are so huge so you will hear about more of their failed cases. Im amazed to see their office tower of surgery each day wow. A surgery in Korea that consistently does shoddy work will not stay in business very long. Its hard for foreigners getting surgery here. There are three problems, almost impossible to sue the surgery, no risk to the surgeries bottom line or reputation from botching it and also Korean peoples prejudice against to some extent western people but to a large extent other Asians. They even kind of even think nothing of Koreans who were born in Korea but raised in America. If there is a less experienced or skillful surgeon on their team then that is the one you will be getting. Its not just about their prejudice, its the ease that Korean customers can sue them and more importantly to them its that these young Korean customers go to Universities with 30 or 40 thousand students and will damage the surgeries name if something goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyglittery Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 you make good points but you also have to remember... big does not mean good. big clinics most often can't afford to hire anything but mediocre surgeons because the company that owns them wants to maximize the profits... and also if a surgeon is good enough why would he need to work in a factory? there are many real surgeons that do good work like the maxillofacial specialist (dr kang) from Grand that left Grand to found his own clinic... (he's actually good as far as i know) so even if they have good surgeons they lose them... which is why these clinics are so full of foreigners and not koreans (of course there are koreans there as well, koreans don't take PS too seriously either like many people... so they don't think too much of the risks and can be just as wowed as b&a's and positive reviews and forget about looking further as non-koreans... they stay in business because they do successful work, yes. but look on naver... BK ID Regen... not popular at all, almost unknown. many of the success cases are foreigners too... big clinics don't have to care about nationality, only money, and non-koreans pay more... it's like a game at a festival. if you try enough times you'll get the fish... but at the end of the night you find many fish belly up and some dead on the ground... game of chance! ps. in every country... including in america... there are surgeons and clinics that are "big" and "great" and "best"... do shoddy work, live on their reputation... it's not right but it happens... just need to avoid... ^^; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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