weick Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I am also post 1 year from revisional surgery from Dr Kang. I am not happy with my results. I have deep scars due to bad stitching in one eye (other is not too bad) which adds to the look of my eyes being uneven. (I think it's very important to see photos of both eyes before and after instead of one because the results can be so uneven. So be careful of one eye before and afters on dr Kang's website) On one eye the skin hangs over the crease and the lines are deep. Also it's as if he sewed the lid on a bias and I have small creases along the incision due to the mismatch of the skin. This eye was sewn very badly. Before the surgery this eye was the less problematic eye. Like Deepeyeys my eyes look elongated. And the inner corner has a another line or crease on one of my eyes. It's lengthened so much that people think I got an epi. Dr Kang did not deliver what he said he could do. Also please be mindful that he is charging an exorbitant price for foreigners. He is overcharging for what he delivers. Please do a thorough research and don't just decide on dr Kang because he's nice. He was nice and I felt comfortable with him but during the post ops he always blamed it on the scars and never acknowledged that there were mistakes on my eyes that are very visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavenderspice Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I have a friend who had surgery with Dr. Kang and she is disappointed with her results. Her eyes are asymmetrical and have deep ugly scars as well (to think her case was not that complicated). She is a silent reader of tPF and went to him based on the glowing reviews mentioned here. Had she read posts like that of Deepeyes and weick before she went to Korea, she would have at least consulted with other doctors. Her mistake was not going to other doctors for a 2nd or even 3rd opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiyin1012 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Do anybody know any doctor revision outer Conner? Since I open outer Conner my eyes start very dry, and uncomfortable, please advise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 You can check out this clinic. His blog has cases of outer corner correction. He used to be very famous in 2010/2011. But people said he uses photo shop. I didn't visit him during my trip though.http://www.sswan.co.kr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Earlier, I mentioned my eyes look longer visually after my revision eyelid surgery. The main purpose of my trip in early July is to perform EPIC reversal (Ateium reconstruction) surgery. I had consultations with the following surgeons:-ASY Clinic - Dr AhnWebsite: www.pscliahn.com Email: [email protected] Price: 2.5 millionDr Ahn is probably in his 50s and he speaks good English. He is a famous and reputable surgeon in Seoul specializing in Scars treatments. He has an interest in EPIC reversal and he has 4 methods with regards to this surgery. He did over 600+ cases and he is very selective with his patients and will not hesitate to reject you if he considers you being too young, impulsive or having BDD etc. This is why some people complain that he is a grumpy old man and some might even take offence by what he said. Dr Ahns clinic is crowded with patients mostly Koreans. My consultation with him took about 30 mins and he usually likes to start off asking for your name. Then he will ask you to write down your name in Chinese character. He understand Chinese character being known as Han Zi in Seoul. Sometimes he might go off topic talking about other things not relevant to the surgery. I didnt have any unpleasant experience with him. In fact, I am very comfortable with him and he didnt lecture me like he had done to other people. He studied and measured the distance between my eyes and told me the distance between my eyes is about 32mm. Judging from my old photos, he said I used to be 34/35mm. He also said I do not have Mongolian folds and he doesnt understand why my primary surgeon cut my epic corners. He recommended 1mm reversal for both eyes. But he said I dont look ugly now but I have more westernized eyes and in fact I look better than before. I told him I want to look like Chinese and my parents/siblings again. He said most of the complaints from patients after surgery is that too much whites are still shown even though he corrected 1mm. Then another popular complaints is that the distance between the eyes become too wide. I think hes trying to set my expectations by telling me all the bad things. Then near the end of the session, a nurse came in and Dr Ahn just took off and said the nurse will attend to me. He said he did epic reversal for this nurse 10 years ago. Her epic reversal looks good with min scar. The nurse brought me to another room and I was feeling a bit jittery because this is the part she will tell me whether Dr Ahn will accept me as a patient. She told me the surgery will not make me prettier but just younger and softer than before and I should re-consider the surgery. She then showed me some photos and I think the photos look good and very subtle.The price is 2.5million and is not negotiable.I told her I will have to consider and she said I can call her before 5.30pm within the same day to book the surgery for the next day at 2.30pm. Eve Clinic Dr ChungWebsite: http://www.eveplastic.co.kr/english/clinic_01.htm Email: [email protected] Price: 2 million Dr Chung is very popular among foreigners and is most often brought up in this forum. He is being written as kind and patience. I learnt my lesson and just want to do more research and careful this time. I believe many people do not have much options hence they went for surgery with him based on what they heard from forum. It is very difficult to find people who had epic reversals but I happened to find 3 patients. Out of the 3, 1 is good and the other two didnt have good results. Considered the difficulty in locating epic reversal people and the probability, I knew he wont be my 1st choice but I would like to talk to him personally to make a decision. Anyway, when I turned up at his clinic, its empty. I wasnt surprised because I already heard from the people who went for consultations and surgeries that his clinic was empty when they were there. Dr Chung said he could correct 1mm on both eyes and he showed me a video of the method he used in this process. I think the advantage of having surgery with Dr Chung is that his method doesnt create much scars. The consultant speaks Chinese and she is quite aggressive. I told her I need to consider as I have to visit another doctor regarding my double eyelids depth. She wont let me leave until I book an appointment for surgery. She said people usually reverse epic first and revise eyelids 3 months later. I insisted I need to consider and she said Dr Chung is famous and theres no reason to consider further. Overall, I am not very comfortable with this kind of sales pushing behaviour. Shinseung Clinic Dr Shin Website: http://shinseung.com/2008/index.asp? Email: [email protected] Price: 2.8 million Shinseung does a lot of local patients and it is famous because he did epic reversal surgery for a Korean actress (Amy) few years ago. I arrived earlier at 2.30pm but his clinic is crowded and so I will have to wait until 4.30pm which was my original appointment. I came back later at 4pm and waited until 5pm. I was getting panicky as I had to confirm my appointment with Dr Ahn. Dr Shin spent a lot of time answering my questions but he told me they are not important because at the end of the day, the shape is most important. I asked him how many mm should I correct. He said he doesnt want to talk about mm. He asked me to hold a mirror and asked me how comfortable I am with the 3 recommended shapes and the amount to be corrected. He has a more aesthetic views and will recommend the amount to be corrected in harmony with your features. Eventually, I decided to go with Dr Shin as I am very comfortable with him and hes more of a specialist in this area. I am now 2 weeks post operation and I am pretty happy with the results. I look more like before when I have my pictures taken. It will take about 8 weeks to completely de-swell and final results is 6 months. The scars arent as bad as expected but it depends on individuals. It also improves my staring look in photos. However do note that with epic reversals surgery, you will never look exactly like before but just very similar. I experience slight tightness and pain 4 hours after surgery and started to eat painkillers for about few days. It went away about 2.5 days later. You will also look over-corrected and it will improves as times goes by. If you are considering epic reversal surgery, do consult all clinics and decide on the doctor whom are you most comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weick Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I had my surgery with dr Kang at IOU in July 2013. It was for ptosis correction, correction for my uneven eyes, and fat graft for sunken eyes. I've waited for my results for a year because every time I saw dr Kang he extended the time for final results. It's now a full year and I think its safe to say this is my final results. As of now I still have ptosis and my fat from the fat grafting is pretty much all gone. The eyes are still uneven which I think I can live with since no one is perfectly even. What I'm struggling with is the shape of my eyes. I had wanted an in-out line as in my original surgery some time ago but I am left with an inner lid where my eyelid slides into the fold. My eyes look more "hooded" and tired which makes me look old. My inner corners are not done well either. When I look to the side my lids on the corner look very unnatural and bunch up. Also since my ptosis isn't fixed I find myself using my eyebrows to lift my kids and make my eyes bigger my top lids (hoods) cannot lift up as if it's anchored down and my lids are glued. At one of the follow ups dr Kang told me not to raise my eyebrows and not to use those muscles. I'm now realizing that his style of eyes doesn't allow for that movement. I am also struggling to get over the deep lines and scarring. Everytime I look at my eyes I am shocked by how terrible his stitching skills are. In this age where no scar is the norm (even for incisional) I have stitch marks and scars. It shows up in pictures so in real life it's much worse. Dr Kang did not fix or improve anything. I'm not even sure if he undid my previous double lid since my lids are still folding exactly at that spot. I have the exact same line as before but only deeper and scarred. Because he can do only one style of lids I strongly caution those who are not looking for the inner hooded lid to do their research. Even if he promises he can do different styles (like with me) be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weick Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I would also add that I am Korean and fluent in Korean and spoke to Dr Kang in Korean. During the consultation he was very nice and said he can fix ptosis, unevenness, give a certain height, fat graft but I don't think he listened to any of it and just did what he felt like. All along I felt like Dr Kang wasn't honest with me. Initially they told me they had a separate anesthesiologist and told me there wasn't one just as I was climbing onto the table. After the surgery when I asked for the height of my lids he avoided the question for a week before admitting he didn't measure. I am skeptical whether dr Kang listens to his patients. He seems nice but at the end of the day he does what he wants and his style of inner lid look. Sorry for venting but I really regret my surgery with Dr Kang. Hope this gives more feedback to others considering him as their surgeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 His English is not fantastic and if he cannot even listen properly in Koreans, how to communicate to him!!! The scars on my eyelid is very unsightly. It is the previous incision line that is still folding hence i have two incision lines. I can no longer go facial, plant eye lashes or even close my eyes when i am outside. People can see my deep scars immediately. i cannot even do revision now as recommended by all doctors. Dr Kang's method definitely creates more scars than he promises but after surgery he will just tell you "scar tissues.. scar tissues". He should have said this before surgery and not making empty promises. For my epic reversal's surgery, dr ahn and dr shin both said that it will create scars. How serious depends on individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjoy Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Deepeyes the doctors you consulted, were they the same doctors who told you not to have any more revisions? I hope you find a solution that will somehow ease the scarring. Have you looked into steroid injections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillyqueen Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Unlike u, I wanted in folder lids at first (it was even written and ticked on my form). But I woke up to find in out folder ones instead. Having difficulty adjusting to my new look now. I think in korea there are 2 types of doctors: unskilled doctors that do exactly what u want but do a **** job. Or skilled doctors that do a good job, but do what they want instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 YES. Thanks a lot but i don know where to find in singapore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepeyes Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 what u said is so true!! I think you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillyqueen Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Hi has anyone done a partial incision (eyelid surgery) before? From what I read online, partial incision involves using stab incisions, instead of a full incision line. I had a partial incision with dr Kwon (Teuim) Today is day 49 and when I close my eyes, it looks like this. It seems like a full to me. Doesn't look like a stab incision at all. Does the partial incision method vary amongst doctors? Can anyone confirm this? Thanks. Pictures show right after the surgery and day 49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swallow86 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I opted for tapered to parallel as well. You just had your surgery so it does take time for swelling to go down before it will become tapered. Its been about 1yr 8mths since my surgery with Dr Kwon, its definately tapered to parallel now as per what I wanted. It will slowly deswell and heal over time and it is so subtle that you won't realise it. I only realised it when I compare my current photos to my 1mth after op photos. That time it was parallel and now its tapered and too be a little honest, I actually like the swollen parallel lids more even though its way more natural now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillyqueen Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Yup you're right I can see the crease at my tip diminishing now. Dr kwon told me it's in outfolder. Brow swallow u did the full incision right? Other than the length of the incision line (I know mine is shorter) was my day 49 pic similar to yours? From the pic it looks like he used his knife and cut straight across my eyelid. Rather than using a stab incision. (If not then his stitching skills are damn good) Am curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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