How can I make my calves smaller?

[kren]

anyone considering dr jong @ taiwan?

or anyone who had done the surgery with dr jong?

please pm me!

 

[londongirl222]

ChicagoSteph said: ↑

Hello. I am 20 days post-op. I had my surgery with Dr. Park at the Oz clinic. I am 34 years old, Asian and from Chicago. I am 5'1" (155 cm) and 103 pounds. My calves were 34 cm on each side. Dr. Park said my ideal was 32 cm. I said "2 cm doesn't seem like that significant of a difference." He said it would be a significant difference because the surgery would remove the bulkiness of my calves. Of course, he was right. I love my new legs!!

1) My recovery has been smooth. I was able to walk to all of my follow up appointments with Dr. Park. The first appointment was 3 days after surgery. I walked to his office in heels. His office is 2 blocks away from the Young Dong Hotel. I was able to walk in flat shoes all of the other times. It was slow, but do-able.

2) Dr. Park uses spinal anesthetia with sedation now. He says the recovery is faster and it was. I was able to go to the bathroom as soon as the anesthetia wore off, about 6 hours after surgery. No bedpan!! Also, there is no annoying sore throat after surgery. You will be cold after you wake up from surgery. Don't be afraid to ask for an extra blanket.

3) I went to Korea and did the surgery by myself. It is great if you have someone that can take 2 weeks off and go with you, but if not, that is okay. If I can do it, you can do it. My cell phone didn't work in Korea. I was able to make phone calls on my Gmail account. It cost one penny per minute. The Young Dong Hotel gives you a cable to connect to the internet. No wi-fi. Also, they will give you a power adapter if you ask for one.

4) I took it easy on the stretching on Day 5 and Day 6 because I read about the muscle spasms that happen around these days. Dr. Park said I wasn't stretching enough and had me come into his office everyday.

5) I got a pill packet after surgery. I think there is a muscle relaxer and digestive aid in the pill packet. Immediately after I finished the pill packet, I felt it. My legs cramped up faster. Stretching took longer.

6) I did 2 aspirations at home. The actual pain wasn't bad. The worst part was the mental anguish of having to poke myself. I found that if I pinched my skin, it didn't hurt at all.

7) I felt that I was going 2 steps backwards in the stretching when I went to bed. My feet tended to point downwards (plantar flexion). I wanted them to point upwards (dorsiflexion) or at least be in neutral position. It helped when I wore a soft ankle support when I went to sleep. They are about $10 each.

8) The flight home was a little rough. Get an aisle seat so it will be easier for you to do the stretches.

9) Dr. Park is A++++++.

If anyone has questions, please post. If you are from Chicago and are thinking about this surgery, I will be happy to meet you!

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Thank you for this post ChicagoSteph really has made me start looking forward to getting out there and having this done. I am so happy for you that you can look at your legs and feel good I know how amazing that must feel. I am going on my own as well and you have really helped me calm the nerves Don't know if you have any photos that you are willing to share? If so PM me and I will let you have my email. Thanks.

 

[chloeleah]

It's been approximately 4 months since my surgery and I just want to share my results from the surgery with Dr Park of OZ Clinic.

I am 158cm, 45 kilograms, and my calves were 34.5 cm and 35 cm respectively before surgery.
Now they're both consistently 31 cm. More specifically, if I wear stockings, my calves are about 29cm. When I wake up in the morning (legs not elevated & no stockings during the night), they are 30cm. After a whole day of walking (with no stockings), they are 31cm.

So I'm going to take it that the final result will probably be about 31cm.

I still wear the stockings intermittently, but no longer elevate my legs when I'm sleeping.

However, while my left calf is completely 'business as usual', I still feel some pain & tightness in my right calf at times. I still need to stretch intermittently, if not my right calf feels uncomfortably tight.

Up until about 1 or 2 weeks ago, my legs still swelled whenever I walked alot, giving me 'cankles'. But that has since resolved.

My entire recovery has been very smooth, and I would strongly advise those of you who are going for the surgery to wear comfortable flat shoes as much as you can, during your entire recovery process in the first 3 months. I was naughty and wore heels quite often, and that significantly set my recovery back! (might have affected my results too, but there's no way of verifying this I guess)

I also have the tendency to lean my body weight on my left leg when I stand, which means that my right leg didn't get straightened out often enough. This largely explains why it is recovering at a slower rate.

So, yep, do your stretches diligently, don't wear heels, and straighten both legs consistently!

All the best for your surgeries!

 

[londongirl222]

ChloeLeah said: ↑

It's been approximately 4 months since my surgery and I just want to share my results from the surgery with Dr Park of OZ Clinic.

I am 158cm, 45 kilograms, and my calves were 34.5 cm and 35 cm respectively before surgery.
Now they're both consistently 31 cm. More specifically, if I wear stockings, my calves are about 29cm. When I wake up in the morning (legs not elevated & no stockings during the night), they are 30cm. After a whole day of walking (with no stockings), they are 31cm.

So I'm going to take it that the final result will probably be about 31cm.

I still wear the stockings intermittently, but no longer elevate my legs when I'm sleeping.

However, while my left calf is completely 'business as usual', I still feel some pain & tightness in my right calf at times. I still need to stretch intermittently, if not my right calf feels uncomfortably tight.

Up until about 1 or 2 weeks ago, my legs still swelled whenever I walked alot, giving me 'cankles'. But that has since resolved.

My entire recovery has been very smooth, and I would strongly advise those of you who are going for the surgery to wear comfortable flat shoes as much as you can, during your entire recovery process in the first 3 months. I was naughty and wore heels quite often, and that significantly set my recovery back! (might have affected my results too, but there's no way of verifying this I guess)

I also have the tendency to lean my body weight on my left leg when I stand, which means that my right leg didn't get straightened out often enough. This largely explains why it is recovering at a slower rate.

So, yep, do your stretches diligently, don't wear heels, and straighten both legs consistently!

All the best for your surgeries!

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Dear ChloeLeah

Thank you for the advice. It is so helpful to have this kind of information of what NOT to do as well as what to do. It really seems like the stretching is so vital and I will be stretching from the minute I am able! I am so happy all is going well for you and wish you a fantastic recovery. If you are able to share any pictures please PM me and I will send email. If not take care and thanks again.

 

[tamtam1]

has anyone actually had the calf redution surgery performed by dr jong in taiwan? I'm impressed with his site's before and after pics and have emailed him direct to ask what effects the operation has on post op walking, exercise etc but I'm a little worried about the language difficulty i.e. can he explain to me what the after effects of the op would be - pain on walking etc? he has just given me the email address of one his patients though so i can't wait to hear what she has to say.

 

[tamtam1]

jomar_luvs_bags said: ↑

This might be too weird for you but do you have before and after pics you can post? I'm just curious to see the difference.

I have big muscular calves too.

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hi, you're the first posting i've found who's actually had the muscle resection op. i am desperate to have it as i have manly 36.5cm calves though the rest of my body is slim. i look like a man in drag from the back if i wear heels with a skirt, just plain ugly. could you please tell me what size your calves were pre and post op? my biggest concern is pain after the op - not immediate, short term pain - more the kind that might happen every time you walk long distances or exercise after the op. i'm not an athlete but i do like to walk long distances occasionally and take exercise classes - would this be a problem or cause me pain? thanks for any advice you can offer.

 

[tamtam1]

julie88 said: ↑

Hey GIRLS!

I am not a regular writer on this forum, but i have been reading for a LONG time now! and am proud of all the brave people that have gone through with the surgery.

I always wanted to find a doctor in Europe, closer to home, who could perform this surgery, and i think i have finally found someone!

Doctors name- Gennaro Selvaggi
Specializes in sex change surgery (therefore breast implants, calf implants and anything else that would come under this category)

Due to the nature of his work, (MEN WANTING smaller calves) he travelled to Taiwan to study calf reduction.
He returned to Europe and now offers calf reduction via-
1) BOTOX
2) CUTTING OF NERVE
3) Liposuction if the calves have allot of fat (which is not the case for many of us!)

So i thought i would schedule a consultation with him, to discuss.
I have never had a surgeon who carries out this surgery examine my calves so i was SUPER excited.
The consultation fee is 100 POUNDS.
At first i thought this was quite allot, however this is the best 100pounds i have spent in my life!

Dr. gennaro is Italian by ethnicity, and is the most understanding person i have met. Genuine, and not misleading!
He was not in a hurry, and did not make me feel like i was rushed.
He did not go straight to the point, but began by talking to me about himself, and what he has been doing. In fact he did not even mention my calves until allot later!
We then moved on to the calves, and he showed me many pictures, articles..
he even showed me photographs of the calf muscle, literally hanging out of the leg! which was then completely cut out! (THAT WHAT I WANT!!)
We discussed all the method that are available in korea, and what he can do.
we ended up speaking about other surgery and anything else i was interested in to!

CONCLUSION(most of you already know this)
Cutting of nerve procedure is completely unpredictable, and BOTOX will not give that much reduction, however is a good temporary solution and may work long term if continuously injected.

MY GOAL-
Ultimately i will have the partial resection done. However have just been putting if of for so long as i would prefer a doctor closer to home, who i can go back to if i have a problem.
He said i can try botox, but he was not pushing me to do this, and again said that the result if unpredictable.

MY CALVE SIZE-
Right- i think it as 34.5cm
left was larger 35cm

(whenever i measure them i measured them allot smaller! and always thought they must be bigger!)

I then spoke to him about whether he will ever offer partial resection surgery.
He said that if there was enough interest then he would do this 100%
as for gender change surgery, his patients are already asking about this.
His company would also fund him to learn this, as they know it would generate allot of interest as he would be the only person in Europe doing the surgery.

Also he knows that this is an easy procedure to learn.
He did also mention that if he does go ahead with learning the new procedure it will be at the end of this year, and would not perform this until he is 200% confident not only in his ability but also in the procedure itself.
he said he will never remove the WHOLE muscle. (he said it is an extremely easy surgery! he has so much experience!)

I assured him that there would be allot of interest, as i myself know SO MANY girls who want this surgery but do not want to travel all the way to korea to have this done.

Overall we came to a decision that i will try botox, to see how it goes, it may be a waste of money but i really want something temporary.
And then hopefully in 6-8 months from now, he may be able to perform surgery. this would have to be done in Sweden due to rules and regulations.

I was really relieved after meeting with doctor gennaro and highly recommend him. he has so much experience in this field, and will make u feel at ease.

Contact details- Gennaro Selvaggi, MD, PhD
email- [email protected]
Website being updated- http://www.drselvaggi.com/

I am sorry if i have bored you all! with this long message but thought a few of you may be interested in this.
Also the more interest we can get, the sooner this procedure can be performed in Europe.
i would be greatful if you could all leave feedback, on what you think, and also if this is something that would interest you.

thank you xxx

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hi guys
i've been in touch with dr selvaggi by email too as i was excited to find someone nearer the uk who could carry out the op. however, from what i could gather, although he'd traveled to korea to watch an experienced surgeon do the nerve cutting op, it didn't seems that he'd carried out many ops himself. and as you said, he's not doing muscle resections at all at this time. i appreciate that everyone has to start somewhere and that we'll only get surgery in europe if we support this guy and put ourselves forward for the op with him but i don't want to be a guinea pig! ANYONE HAD THE OP WITH HIM YET?

 

[tamtam1]

Hi there. i am desperate to have the muscle resection but worried about having surgery so far from home (which is the UK) and also about the possible effects on walking and exercise after. i'm no athlete but i do like to walk with my young family and to take a couple of exercise classes each week. my calves are 36.5cm, they look awful from behind or from the side when I wear heels. doeS anyone have before and after phots they could post please?

 

[tamtam1]

alana rose said: ↑

Hi Londongirl. I'm from Scotland and had the surgery done in February. It's the best thing I've ever done. If your calve size bothers you then I wouldn't hesitate in getting it done.

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hi alana, do you mind me asking whether you have much pain when walking or exercising? my calves are 36.5cm and look horrible from the back and side when i wear heels with a skirt. i would love to have the op though it's a shame there are no experienced surgeons in europe. what were your pre and post measurements please?

 

[tamtam1]

missjesss said: ↑

One question I do have for the girls who have already undergone surgery, have any of you got ur calf muscle strength back? I'll admit I have been very slack with oversize lately lol and have not bothered to go for runs or walks, however I am wanting to start up netball soon and I just don't have the strength to run for very long. What is the best thing you can do to rebuild strength ? I have emailed Dr Park also

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hi there. this is my biggest concern about the surgery. is is just weakness that you're feeling or pain too? can you walk ok?

 

[tamtam1]

Londongirl222 said: ↑

Hi

I would love to hear from anyone from England who is going to have this operation or who has had it done. Dr Park told me that he has operated on ladies in England and Europe so if anyone in England sees this it would be great to have your opinions and comments.

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hi there! i've been in email contact with dr jong from taiwan but dr park's name keeps coming up. have you had your surgery yet? my calves are 36.5cm at the mo, so manly when i wear heels, which i love to do but not if you can see my calves. i would love to have those thin calves with no muscle bulking. i'm just concerned about teh effect the op could have on walking/light exercise in the mid-long term. can anyone let me know their experience? does stretching help very much?

 

[tamtam1]

kren said: ↑

hi all,

i'm currently at youngdong hotel, and did my consultation with dr. park this morning.

i was initially all ready to go ahead with the surgery. but i backed out last minute.

alot of things just went through my mind. the consequences, risk, effects, and of course, the benefits i'll get after the surgery. which means i'll probably get better nicer calves.
and to think that i had just wasted my trip down to korea.

but something just stopped me.
perhaps it's just the inner coward me. the one who stopped me for the surgery, but also the one who reminds me to accept and love myself as who i am.

i know there's lot of you girls who went through the surgery, and where most of you were satisfied with the results.
i'm not against the idea of it either, i understand how you girls felt before.

it's just a realization that i had, since there's always imperfection in the world, and i should learn to embrace what is given to me.

i always had the concept to embrace something which is not of the norm, like why should we all follow the latest fashion design and all.
but this concept had failed on myself then. but now, i'm going use this attitude to treat myself.

i'm one special individual, and so is every individual one of you out there.

nevertheless, be it that you've done the surgery, going ahead with the surgery, or deciding to get the surgery done, i just want to tell you girls, always love yourself as who you are.


PS: my mind was in chaos, and i needed an outlet to express myself. this is the only place where i know i could do that. please bear with me.
and i really miss my family and loved ones now.

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oh kren i really feel for you. you must be feeling torn - i know how much you want the op - i do too - but you can't help but ask yourself - is the risk really worth it. is it better to have muscular bulky calves that work and do what nature intended or to have feminine slim calves that look great in heels but maybe don't work well and cause you pain, even when walking. such a tough decision but you're very brave to have followed your heart. i'm sure you felt very emotional, esp being there alone. brave girl.

 

[tamtam1]

gingersnaps99 said: ↑

Hey missjesss, I can't run for very long either, though I was never much of a runner anyway! I still don't have the bounce in my legs that I had before the surgery. But I'm fine for walking long distances, hikes, etc - I just get a bit of swelling when I do

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hi there - glad to hear that you can walk long distances still. how long are you post op? what were your pre and post op calf measurements please?what does bounce mean?! are there any things you're not happy with post op?

 

[tamtam1]

marshmallow_ said: ↑

i think i never heard about anyone who had long-term side-effects after a partial resection of the gastrocnemius muscle. there are some other calf reduction surgeries as well, including cutting nerves etc. If i remember correct i once came across an article about the nerve cutting surgery. they have written you can't control the result and it could also lead to permanent damages if cutting the wrong nerves. So i think you probably refer to another method than the partial resection.

as for myself, i had my surgery done last september (Dr. Park, Oz Clinic) and i don't have any side-effects at all.

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hi there, did you have the op in the end? i'm worried about pain and difficulty walking too - does anyone know if this is common? is it reduced if the stretching exercises are done regularly?

 

[tamtam1]

missjesss said: ↑

I have not worn pants in 3 weeks and Ive been wearing short dresses and knee length dresses so just picture that girls!!!

IT'S SO WORTH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wow! can you please tell me your pre and post op measurements? my calves look so heavy that i never wear dresses unless with trousers or leggings and skirts have to end below my calf or i try to avoid standing where people will be able to see my ugly legs. i am slim elsewhere but this problem really affects what i can wear.